Commons:Deletion requests/File:Walther-Johann-Gottfried-01.jpg

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File:Walther-Johann-Gottfried-01.jpg[edit]

There are credible claims the picture is of Thomas Christian Walther not Walther Johann Gottfried. This is both due to it being identified on Thomas Christian Walther on another website and due to the original source website ceasing to use the image on their Walther Johann Gottfried webpage. DeirgeDel tac 17:54, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Due acknowledgements go to @Fehufanga for noticing this issue. See w:simple:Special:Diff/8837947 -- DeirgeDel tac 18:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Per Fehufanga's discovery "Museo internazionale e biblioteca della musica di Bologna" identify the image as "Thomas Christian Walther" -- DeirgeDel tac 18:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Issue: The source for the image is given simply as a jpeg URL rather than a webpage containing the image which is best practice for context: source-jpeg -- DeirgeDel tac 18:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I believe a credible location on that website for that image is its Johann Gottfried Walther (Composer) page. the image is not present there though which you might expect. (I am seeing women clad only in underwear though but your experience may be different) -- DeirgeDel tac 18:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • But Bingo! this snap of the page from 14 February 2006 has the image. On possible reason for removing the image by that website might have been it was the wrong one. -- DeirgeDel tac 18:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I believe it is inappropriate to retain this image as is representing Walther Johann Gottfried and categorised as such. A precautionary delete is strongly recommend especially given its wide application. Thankyou. -- DeirgeDel tac 18:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Symbol speedy keep.svg Speedy keep COM:INUSE. Photos don't get deleted because their descriptions, categorizations or filenames should be changed. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:55, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Pictogram voting comment (orange).svg Comment: I'm happy if anyone retaining this does the relevant clean-up. For information I made a mistake and the image is not of Thomas Christian Walther, I am minded Thomas Christian Walther was the painter. Thankyou. -- 20:11, 23 May 2023 (UTC) See also w:e:Talk:Johann Gottfried Walther. -- DeirgeDel tac 20:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Pictogram voting comment (orange).svg Comment You're the one who made the mistake of requesting deletion of a file in use. You should do the cleanup. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Pictogram voting comment (orange).svg Comment: @Ikan Kekek: : COM:INUSE specifically refers to image quality as an example. It indicates the value of education. I don't see having known false information in place really helps education. If you're agreeing the image is falsely caption then it is the original uploader who has made the mistake and I suggest they have primary responsibility for cleaning it up. If they were not here then I might contribute to helping. However you comment that I should clean this up has made me very very very angry. So I am no going to walk away. I will leave a message on the village pump for another volunteer to pick this up. Possibly @Fehufanga: may be able help. -- DeirgeDel tac 21:47, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Do what you like. Sorry to anger you, but I feel like starting a deletion request on a file in use is a waste of time, when it can't be deleted as long as it's in use and you could have just cleaned it up. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:08, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Pictogram voting comment (orange).svg Comment For what it's worth, a color version at File:Thomas Christian Walter.jpg exists, but Ikan Kekek is correct: the file is still being used in other projects, so it can't just be deleted. I removed the image from enwiki and simplewiki because I can discuss about the removal of the file on either wiki. One can always tag the file with the {{Fact disputed}} template.Fehufanga (talk) 22:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kept. I've cleaned up the description, etc. and renamed the file. Help in getting it removed from the various Wikipedias where it has been misused would be good. Ikan Kekek, while you are not technically wrong, you should consider that not everyone is expert on Commons policies, and DeirgeDel was doing a good thing by calling this to our attention, even if he didn't understand the best way to proceed with what he'd worked out. & thanks to Fehufanga. - Jmabel ! talk 00:21, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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