User talk:Jmabel

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Your suggestion[edit]

Re Malin. This person is a chronic uploader of junk. See Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Uploads by Matlin/temp. He does not have a user page on the Commons and I don't know how to "communicate" with him in Polish. He has been blocked a couple of times for this, but my recent nominations from December 14 show that since his recent block expired nothing has changed. These are a tiny, tiny portion of his junky uploads, since the Commons as a high tolerance for junk. As someone said regarding his junk: "Drinking from the Flickr firehose gives us a lot of COM:FREE content, but I'm not seeing COM:SCOPE". If you go through the "uncategorized" dates, those that still have thousands remaining without categories contain large numbers of Matlin's uploads (as well a those of some other uploaders with the same tendencies). It's quite depressing and I'm sick of it and getting sick of junk. I just like looking at photographs of different places. (I hear it is cold in Seattle.) Krok6kola (talk) 18:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You suggested that I speak to User:Matlin. (A.Savin blocked them for one month on January 5, 2022.) How do you speak to some in Polish? I've managed to add some images to articles in the Polish Wikipedia but that is about it. Matlin can only be contacted through email, according to his Polish page. Krok6kola (talk) 23:20, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Krok6kola: If there is no common language, then my best suggestion is Google Translate (then copy-paste). Mention, of course, that you are using machine translation. I'd send email with both the English and the machine translation. pl:Wikiskryba:Matlin does say he knows "basic" English and (if it's useful to you) a bit more German. - Jmabel ! talk 23:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think he/she (probably a he) is addicted, as we all are here. The sad part is just before he was blocked he/she was starting to actually add some categories. I don't think language is the way to go with this person. Krok6kola (talk) 23:40, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pottery Making at New Mexico Museum of Art.jpg[edit]

The photographs did rise and fall together, as you predicted! Krok6kola (talk) 21:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How we will see unregistered users[edit]

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Your most memorable shot of 2021[edit]

Happy New Year! As always at the beginning of the new year, I'm inviting you to share your most memorable shot of the past year. Which of your photos stood out in 2021? Which image created special memories that you'd like to share with others? On behalf of the Commons Photographers User Group I wish you, your family, and your friends all the best for 2022. Warmly, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 03:25, 8 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question[edit]

Hi Jmabel. You had helped me a while back (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Carrie-Hope-Fletcher.jpg#File%3ACarrie-Hope-Fletcher.jpg) and I wasn't sure where to ask this question, so I hope you don't mind me asking you. I've developed a general interest in intellectual property the last couple years, and I recently took some coursework on copyright. I'm the odd sort of person who finds copyright a bit fun, I suppose, and I was wondering to what extent there is a need for people semi-knowledgeable in that area on this site. Assuming so, do you have any recommendations on how to get started, both in learning my way around and in terms of what needs doing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrueNeutral879 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 12 January 2022‎ (UTC)Reply[reply]

@TrueNeutral879: I would suggest you start checking in regularly at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. That's the central point for copyright-related discussion. (Also, please sign your posts). - Jmabel ! talk 15:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Thanks for the pointers! I'll take a look. TrueNeutral879 (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikimedia Sound Logo project[edit]

Wikimedia Sound Logo project

The Wikimedia Sound Logo project

Hello, the Wikimedia sound logo project is in an early development phase -- this stage is for asking all kinds of questions, developing and fielding ideas, finding themes and shaping the direction of the project. Here is a link to the meta page for the project: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Sound_Logo

Your input is welcome. Thank you.

VGrigas (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 21 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Governors Island Ferry Dock 05 (9440765547)[edit]

I apologize. I thought New York Water Taxi was technically considered a ferry. ----DanTD (talk) 16:06, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@DanTD: If it is, then feel free to add that. (I wouldn't call a tour boat a ferry, but whatever.) But certainly don't remove the category that indicates that it shows a ferry (rather than an empty terminal). Certainly what the picture shows is more important than what sort of boat I was on when I took it, and shouldn't be dropped. - Jmabel ! talk 16:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

forth --> fourth[edit]

...wouldn't that have been a really cool topic for a geek? ;-) Pittigrilli (talk) 17:55, 25 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Record_producers[edit]

Record producers has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Geo Swan (talk) 03:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Thornewood - formal garden detail 01.jpg[edit]

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75.146.52.142 18:05, 26 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Thornewood 04.jpg[edit]

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75.146.52.142 18:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Thornewood 05.jpg[edit]

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75.146.52.142 18:30, 26 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:1940s architecture in New York[edit]

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In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

čeština ∙ Deutsch ∙ English ∙ español ∙ français ∙ italiano ∙ magyar ∙ Nederlands ∙ português ∙ polski ∙ sicilianu ∙ беларуская (тарашкевіца) ∙ македонски ∙ русский ∙ українська ∙ ತುಳು ∙ ಕನ್ನಡ ∙ ไทย ∙ עברית ∙ 日本語 ∙ 中文 ∙ +/−

--R'n'B (talk) 16:38, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@R'n'B and R'n'B: the discussion link leads nowhere. - Jmabel ! talk 16:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are too fast. ;-) It's live now. --R'n'B (talk) 16:42, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

link wikidata commons[edit]

Hello

I Have the same problem again; link János Piry Cirjék (Q1236709) wikidata to János Piry Cirjék commons. I don't know where I go wrong. I have asked "Wikidata:Project chat" about it.

Regards

--Io Herodotus (talk) 13:43, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Io Herodotus: again, that Wikidata item is not linked to Commons. Did you look at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2966518&diff=1594620512&oldid=1504990041, which I linked in our discussion on the Village pump? You need to make an analogous edit to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1236709. - Jmabel ! talk 14:53, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I understand now, it has to be added on 2 different places. Thank you. --Io Herodotus (talk) 15:26, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your help![edit]

	Very Helpful Award
	Appreciate it :) FlantasyFlan (talk) 17:08, 27 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seattle Municipal Archives[edit]

Note to self: "new" search for a given item is

http://archives.seattle.gov/digital-collections/index.php/Search/objects/search/num%253Aitem numberAND+ca_objects.type_id%253A23

e.g. http://archives.seattle.gov/digital-collections/index.php/Search/objects/search/num%253A77810+AND+ca_objects.type_id%253A23

Jmabel ! talk 22:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Nursing students by country[edit]

Hi! I create this category. Please re-categorising to subcategories by country. --Микола Василечко (talk) 15:53, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Irene Mawer.jpg[edit]

Hello Jmabel! Since you had mentioned that you were open to reconsideration, I wanted to bring your attention to my comment. Regards. — The Most Comfortable Chair 04:28, 26 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Save the date: Commons Photographers meeting next week[edit]

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

Please save the date: on Saturday, June 19th, our next virtual Zoom meeting is going to take place. As you know, one goal of these meetings is to share knowledge about different types of photography. This time, we've lined up the following presentations:

Photography in Nigeria
Photographing vehicles
I started printing my images – here’s what I've learned so far…

If you'd like to participate in this event, please consider signing up on this page. Also, if you'd like to present at one of the next meetings, please send me a quick note. Sharing your experiences and learnings with others can make a huge difference!

I wish you, your family, and your friends all the best! Hope to see you on the 19th.

Warmly, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 03:13, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Modification of Template:PD-VenezuelaGov[edit]

Hello, I want to talk to you about the modification of the template Template:PD-VenezuelaGov that mentions the public domain license for Venezuela.

Recently in 2012, the government decreed a law that releases to the public domain all the graphic material that is made by any of the government institutions.

The law in question is the Ley Orgánica del Trabajo, los Trabajadores y las Trabajadoras (Labor Law in English), decreed in May 7, 2012. In which article no. 325 decrees (in Spanish):

La producción intelectual generada bajo relación de trabajo en el sector público, o financiada a través de fondos públicos que origine derechos de propiedad intelectual, se considerará del dominio público, manteniéndose los derechos al reconocimiento público del autor o autora.

Translated into English would be:

The intellectual production generated under an employment relationship in the public sector, or financed through public funds that originates intellectual property rights, will be considered to be in the public domain, maintaining the rights to public recognition of the author.

Can be modify this template to add this law?

-- Wguayana (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Wguayana: I have no problem with that happening; the template already pretty crowded, though, and rewording it to add this major case may be complicated.
Also, I think that very literal translation is a bit clumsy. Still, I guess we need to stay more-or-less literal, rather than just explain the concept. What about a slight rewording to:

Intellectual product generated under an employment relationship in the public sector—or financed through public funds—that generates intellectual property rights, will be considered to be in the public domain, while maintaining the authors' rights to public recognition.

Do you want to edit the template, or are you asking me to edit it? Have you pinged the people who have worked on that template in the past? Jmabel ! talk 20:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel Very good, it seems fair to me.
I am asking you to edit it as it can only be changed by administrators. I contacted other administrators but so far no one had replied. Wguayana (talk) 21:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Wguayana: I've updated the English and the Spanish; I don't have the confidence to do the German. - Jmabel ! talk 21:34, 14 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  Thanks!
  
  -- Wguayana (talk) 21:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sound Logo[edit]

Hello,

I am messaging you because a contest for a sound logo for Wikimedia is being developed and your opinion as a Wikimedia Commons admin is appreciated. My team would like to know if it is possible for the top finalist sound logos in the contest to have attribution temporarily hidden from public view until all the votes are final? The idea is to let the public judge the sound logo contestants based on the merit of the logo, not the person or people who made it. Again, any feedback is appreciated.

Thank you,

VGrigas (WMF) (talk) 17:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@VGrigas (WMF): I don't think this is more for admins to decide than anyone else. Issue should be brought to the Village Pump.
I'm going to make a strong guess that you'll need the explicit permission of each individual who has submitted the sound logo before you do this with their submission. Otherwise, you are violating their license. - Jmabel ! talk 17:50, 17 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This Sunday![edit]

Hi, this is just a quick reminder: the next virtual meeting of our user group is scheduled for Sunday, June 19, 16:00 UTC. Topics are: “Photography in Nigeria”, “Photographing Vehicles”, “Wildlife photography and citizen science”, and “I started printing my images – here’s what I've learned so far…”. I'm thrilled about this great agenda and I'm looking forward to connecting with you again. Stay safe and all the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 03:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Summer_Solstice_Parade_and_Pageant[edit]

Summer Solstice Parade and Pageant has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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A1Cafel (talk) 08:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Notification about possible deletion[edit]

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Afrikaans ∙ Bahasa Indonesia ∙ català ∙ čeština ∙ dansk ∙ Deutsch ∙ Deutsch (Sie-Form)‎ ∙ eesti ∙ English ∙ español ∙ Esperanto ∙ français ∙ galego ∙ hrvatski ∙ íslenska ∙ italiano ∙ magyar ∙ Nederlands ∙ norsk ∙ norsk bokmål ∙ norsk nynorsk ∙ occitan ∙ Plattdüütsch ∙ polski ∙ português ∙ português do Brasil ∙ română ∙ shqip ∙ sicilianu ∙ slovenčina ∙ slovenščina ∙ suomi ∙ svenska ∙ Tiếng Việt ∙ Türkçe ∙ Zazaki ∙ Ελληνικά ∙ беларуская ∙ беларуская (тарашкевіца)‎ ∙ български ∙ македонски ∙ русский ∙ српски / srpski ∙ українська ∙ հայերեն ∙ বাংলা ∙ മലയാളം ∙ ไทย ∙ ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ ∙ မြန်မာဘာသာ ∙ 조선말 ∙ 한국어 ∙ 日本語 ∙ 中文 ∙ 中文（简体）‎ ∙ 中文（繁體）‎ ∙ עברית ∙ العربية ∙ پښتو ∙ فارسی ∙ ދިވެހިބަސް ∙ +/−

Affected:

File:Fremont, Seattle - dinosaur topiary.jpg

Yours sincerely, Elisfkc (talk) 20:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Library[edit]

Dear Jmabel, One of your photos has been used in the book The Library, A Fragile History (with due acknowledgements), see The Signpost. --- Vysotsky (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Quick update on behalf of the Commons Photographers User Group[edit]

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I hope you're well and enjoy taking photos for Wikimedia Commons. Here are a couple of quick updates on behalf of our group:

Our next virtual meeting will take place on Saturday, August 27. At this point we have two presentations lined up:

Suitable! Unsuitable! How to choose photos for a Wikipedia for children, “Klexikon” (Ziko)
The aperture and its (less known) effects (XRay)

You can sign up for the event on this page: Virtual Meeting on August 27, 2022. – Given that we can accommodate more speakers, I'll invite you to get in touch with me in case you'd like to present on the 27th. You can reach me any time on my talk page or by sending a quick email.

Also, we now have a page for local events organized by members of our user group: Local events 2022. Please check it out and consider organizing an event yourself!
And finally, we're planning on offering a Post-processing Workshop on October 8. Please save the date; an events page with more information will go up later.

Thanks for being a member of our group and for sharing your works under a free license. Have fun taking pictures!

All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 15:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Out of scope posts by newbies on Helpdesk[edit]

Hi, I think it is not necessary to answer to out of scope posts by newbies on Helpdesk. I deleted or reverted all edits by this user, and warned them about the scope of Commons. Thanks, Yann (talk) 17:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: That's fine. Since she was claiming to be an actress, I thought there might be a photo of her that was somehow involved. - Jmabel ! talk 17:17, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Admin template[edit]

Hi, You should a {{User admin}} in your userpage. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: Thanks, done. - Jmabel ! talk 16:41, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sockpuppet[edit]

You might want to know that the account that uploaded this copyvio image is a sockpuppet on English Wikipedia. Bri (talk) 14:08, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're invited to provide input…[edit]

Dear fellow member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

At our last meeting end of August, we talked about getting in touch with the Wikimedia Foundation and offering our help for improving Wikimedia Commons. Today, I invite you to provide your input on a draft open letter to the Foundation. Over the course of the next ten days, we'll further improve the text together, before inviting people to sign it. If you're interested in providing input, please engage in the discussion on the talk page of the draft.

In the meanwhile, I hope you're well and have a great time taking photos! All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 08:42, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

From User:STTLynch[edit]

en:User talk:Jmabel The Leon Lynch image uploaded simply needs editing in the copyright data and photo caption. According to the United Steelworkers representative, the copyright belongs to: United Steelworkers archive. There should not be an individual photographer listed. Also, the Steelworkers state the image was taken circa 1990 not 1996. Any credit for the image should be courtesy of the United Steelworkers archive.

Not sure what happened to the copy of the image that Tony Montana of the USW said he uploaded. I never saw it in the Wikimedia Commons database. Just glad the source details behind the image I shared, which is the same image Tony said he shared, will be corrected. Thank you. [unsigned]

@STTLynch: You can edit it accordingly exactly as easily as I can.
As far as I can see, we still don't have a clear permission for the image from the copyright holder. I don't have access to VRT tickets. As I said, if you believe there is already a ticket on this, bring that matter to Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard. If there is no ticket, then the copyright holder needs to go through the process described at COM:VRT. - Jmabel ! talk 14:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Online workshop this weekend[edit]

Dear Commons Photographers User Group member,

This coming Saturday, October 8, we'll host an online post processing workshop. On behalf of our events coordinator Shreya I invite you to sign up for the event using this Google form.

I hope you're well. All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maybe revdel-worthy?[edit]

You reverted Special:Diff/698124563 and Special:Diff/698124336. I wonder if it might be worth hiding the edit summaries as purely disruptive material, since they're in no way germane to the edits and the second one is at least a little bit transphobic. --bjh21 (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bjh21: Good idea, but it looks like someone beat me to it. - Jmabel ! talk 14:17, 23 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Child pornography[edit]

Hello.

I'm concerned that this image at commons is child pornography. Not only because the minor's glute is very visible, but the Flickr account from which the image was uploaded - and that I will not make a link to (it can be accessed from the photo's description) - is filled with nude photos of minors and inappropriate comments below the images. Governor Sheng (talk) 02:53, 2 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Linking file page: File:The twins laugh at something they are watching at our campsite (50094290861).jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 14:25, 2 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Governor Sheng: you appear to have nominated this for deletion. I have no idea why you have messaged me on my talk page. If you feel this is an admin issue, please bring it to Commons:Administrators' noticeboard. - Jmabel ! talk 14:29, 2 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For what it's worth, I don't think the image is pornographic, and I'm neutral about whether it should be kept on Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 14:30, 2 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Taken on template[edit]

Thank you for bringing to my attention that my bot (BadzilBot was doing unnecessary edits. As mentioned on the Commons pump this wasn't intended and will not continue in the future. It would have been nice to have been made aware directly of this issue with a message on my talk page or a ping on the Commons pump thread. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 13:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Cryptic-waveform: Sorry. Glad to hear this wasn't intentional. - Jmabel ! talk 15:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question from the CPUG Board[edit]

Dear user group member,

I'm writing you to today on behalf of the board of the Commons Photographers User Group. The past year has been a busy one for us. In 2022, we've had more activities than ever before in the history of our group and you'll find an overview on our group's page.

With that being said, 2022 was also a year of learning for the current board members. Most of us hadn't been involved in running the Photographers User Group and we spent quite some time on getting used to our new roles. We all feel it was a steep learning curve.

That's why, at our last board meeting, we decided to ask our members whether they'd be ok with us serving for another year. Extending our board duties to the end of 2023 would allow us to continue the work we've started this year, and to benefit from the knowledge we've built over the past twelve months.

However, in the end, it's up to you and the other members of our group to decide whether such an extension of our board term should be granted. I invite you to voice your opinion on this page:

Commons:Commons Photographers User Group/Board Elections 2022

We'll gather feedback until December 27, and we'll keep you in the loop about the outcomes of this process.

Thanks so much for your ongoing support of our group. I wish you, your family, and your friends all the best.

--Ailura (talk) 12:32, 11 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry[edit]

…about this. I should have been more useful in this discussion. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 04:25, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Apology accepted.

As you can imagine, it did not help me in keeping track of the issues at hand. Neither of you was pointing to a technical issue, you were both arguing vexillology and throwing insults at each other. I figured I was keeping matters on track by trying to bring it back to the vexillology. But as an admin, I probably should have been thinking ahead to the tech side of what the move would mean. If I've screwed up, then I've screwed up, and there is nothing in particular I can do about it now. - Jmabel ! talk 04:30, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For what’s worth, I think you’re by far hands down one of the very best admins in Commons. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 07:31, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks. I try. - Jmabel ! talk 16:13, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree with Tuvalkin. "I think you’re by far hands down one of the very best admins in Commons." You are. Krok6kola (talk) 20:51, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Infoboxes[edit]

If you love to do infoboxes, Category:Reginald Barlow needs one too. Krok6kola (talk) 17:34, 29 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't "love" to do them, but I do seem to be one of the people on Commons who gets how to do Wikidata. - Jmabel ! talk 19:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Here's another then: Category:Billy Campbell (baseball). I would do them if I knew how and understood the point of doing them. Krok6kola (talk) 19:43, 29 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  The big pieces are
  1. Add the Commons page to the relevant Wikidata item.
  2. Flesh out the Wikidata item, if needed.
  3. Add {{Wikidata Infobox}} to the Commons page.
  Jmabel ! talk 20:10, 29 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Most memorable shot 2022 / Wikimania 2023[edit]

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I wish you a Happy New Year! As it has been our tradition at the beginning of the new year for a while, we're sharing our most memorable shots of the past year with each other. I invite you to share a picture that is particular meaningful to you and to describe why that's the case. Also, as Wikimania 2023 will be here before we know it (August 16 to 19), please consider adding your thoughts on our planning page, where we gather ideas for how we can make Commons photography more visible than in the years before.

All the best to you, your family, and friends! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 21:01, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Sapiens et iustus es. 188.123.231.39 06:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your photo used with credit[edit]

@Jmabel, This photo File:Cement plant 02.jpg with credit to you appeared today on All In with Chris Hayes in reference to a Supreme Court case and hearing, which I think was also today. -- Ooligan (talk) 07:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ooligan: Thanks for letting me know! - Jmabel ! talk 16:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are welcome. Congratulations, -- Ooligan (talk) 16:49, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moving forward[edit]

Is it better to create CFDs for each empty category like Trivialist did at Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2023/01#Category:SCOOB!_characters or focus on reverting the edits first so that the discussions aren't pointless? Both options are terrible because I can at best half-heartedly say they should be deleted but I feel foolish saying "someone else gutted this and it's now empty but believe me, if we had what I think we had here, it would be a bad category." Maybe I can get a bot to make a list of what pages were in those categories first and then post that so the discussions aren't basically rigged from the start. It's a lot of work to have an honest debate even if I think they are all ridiculous. Ricky81682 (talk) 05:17, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ricky81682: obviously the categories should not have been emptied before some sort of consensus was reached. This is just not appropriate. Have you already brought that up with them? At least their edit summaries tend to be pretty clear, so you could probably go more-or-less sanely through their user contributions and find the relevant edits, but it looks like they are doing this over and over with categories they don't like. - Jmabel ! talk 07:48, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see this is already being discussed on Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems, so why ask on my talk page? - Jmabel ! talk 07:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't know why actually lol. You are right, I'll bring it up with Trivialist myself. Ricky81682 (talk) 10:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- It looks like he's now undone a lot of this, maybe all. - Jmabel ! talk 17:59, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A question[edit]

Do you have an opinion on the Universal Code of Conduct and its revision. If so, do you want to share it? Krok6kola (talk) 17:15, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Krok6kola: so far, what I've seen is reasonable. I'm not at all sure it is necessary, but it's probably inevitable. - Jmabel ! talk 17:19, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agree with the inevitable part. Krok6kola (talk) 17:24, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Krok6kola: I haven't yet read the new enforcement guidelines, will do that today. - Jmabel ! talk 17:28, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There has been a distinct show of courtesy on the part of some editors as a result of this Universal Code. So I am in favor. I can't get into the weeds of any changes. (My ADD and advanced years) Krok6kola (talk) 19:51, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Notification about possible deletion[edit]

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Affected:

File:Bucharest - Dec 2014 - B-dul Regina Elisabeta 02.jpg

Yours sincerely, Abzeronow (talk) 16:05, 14 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would never have guessed that was an FoP violation, but nothing to do if it is. - Jmabel ! talk 16:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- A user had tagged it with Category:Palatul Creditului Industrial and it had looked like it had matched. Abzeronow (talk) 16:19, 14 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  - @Abzeronow: It looks correctly identified. I hadn't considered that an inter-war building might still be under copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 16:29, 14 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Livioandronico2013[edit]

Hi,I haven't had any arguments with anyone,I get insulted,they say my photos are crap,I don't intend to participate in QI OR FP but just put up photos but I get blocked for facts from 10 years ago. Thanks for your attention and sorry for the trouble. 151.46.218.2 00:29, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FWIW, I have never had any of my own photos selected for FP. The people who vote there have a very specific aesthetic, which for the most part I don't share. I personally find it not worth fighting over.
However, if you are interested in having an account restored here, I suggest you resist the urge to post from an IP address while blocked. Stick to making requests for an unblock on your own talk page. Anything else is likely to be considered block evasion. - Jmabel ! talk 00:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
They don't even consider unblocking me, and anyway I didn't insist on posting pictures, I put up undoubtedly better pictures but since I am blocked then they say I insist. It's a dog biting its own tail. Anyway sincerely thank you for your interest. It was kind. 151.46.218.2 00:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You are kind! Krok6kola (talk) 01:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Very sorry[edit]

I'm sorry to bother again but now he did this [1]--109.52.98.243 21:28, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I hope you understand that by posting to my user page, you are violating your block, which makes it pretty much impossible for me to take you side in this. You obviously are not good at leaving well enough alone. Right now, I'm inclined to stay out of this. If you post to my page again, including if you respond to this, I'll probably have to support the ban. Just stop. - Jmabel ! talk 00:31, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Need some help?[edit]

@Jmabel Hello. How can i help here? This category needs to be emptied so it can be deleted as per your discussion, I could empty it unless you want to do it. - Category:Historic Columbia River Gorge National Scenic Area Photos I found another similar one by the same sock. Category:Historic Photos Forest Service Pacific Northwest Region Thanks, -- Ooligan (talk) 18:36, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ooligan: I'll take on the Gorge one. If you want to take on the Forest Service one, great. Just a matter of working out what needs to be recategorized how, then getting rid of the empty category. I haven't started yet, so I don't know how much of an undertaking it will be. That last one is big, though: it might take a lot of work. I think it may be more a question of how can I help you on that monster? - Jmabel ! talk 18:40, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel Should I open a discussion on this Category:Historic Photos Forest Service Pacific Northwest Region before I take action or do I reference your and Pi's discussion on that similar category. I just want to do the process properly. I can ask for your help if I need it, but you always seem to have something you are working on. I enjoy these old files- I wish that some originating institutions would let us (The Commons) have the highest quality versions of these images that are reserve for paying customers. -- Ooligan (talk) 19:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Ooligan: I don't think we need a further discussion on this, it's pretty clear that a now-banned user left a mess which ought to be cleaned up. Judging by what I've seen in the last half-hour or so, it's quite a mess: so far all but one file I've looked at was terribly categorized (as in: missing any relevant categories, and most of them containing irrelevant categories, like a mountain that was 50 miles away and not in the picture). Not sure how much time I'll put into this right now: I was in the middle of working my way through thousands of genuinely good, high-resolution images from Seattle Public Library. - Jmabel ! talk 19:20, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Ooligan: Example of how bad: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:1790_Paulina_Peak_Lookout_Tower,_Deschutes_NF,_OR_8-1960_(22140420003).jpg&diff=735128683&oldid=735024309. Maybe we should turn those bad "Historic" categories into maintenance categories, and indicate that all the photos in them need a cat check. What do you think? - Jmabel ! talk 19:32, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  Sounds good. Others may help. When empty, these maintenance categories will be deleted? -- Ooligan (talk) 20:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  @Ooligan: Yes. - Jmabel ! talk 20:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A kitten for you![edit]

For deleting my page. Thanks!

Waylon111 (talk) 18:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Curation...[edit]

It needs an admin to change/implement it, but this change to {{Internet Archive Link}} is overdue. Template:Internet Archive link/sandbox. The next problem is how to implement a review process. The best guide I have is the existing License review process, but I am not sure how you prevent the user that uploaded the file self-signing that they verified it.

The intention with this change is that eventually all compatible files are in the /verified cat. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@ShakespeareFan00: Better to make this sort of request at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard than to hit me up. I don't really know enough about this template to make a judgement call, someone else will.
But a couple of comments: 1) the documentation will need to be updated as well. 2) I presume that the intent with "reviewed" is specific to when this is used to cite a source (since there can be other reasons to link to an archived file, e.g. for a citation). We don't want to end up categorizing some file as having a licensing problem because its description cites a copyrighted file on the Internet Archive. - Jmabel ! talk 21:04, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hmm... That's a reasonable considerationShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seed catalogs..[edit]

Any chance you could partition Category:Henry G. Gilbert Nursery and Seed Trade Catalog Collection by year?

Also if you find post 1928 editions of catalogs with notices, you know what to do, already :)

It would be nice to get this cleaned up quickly. :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@ShakespeareFan00: any particular reason you are asking me rather than someone who has worked on that category? I've got a lot of other projects I'm working on. I guess I'm willing to do this if there's some reason I'd be better than a random person... - Jmabel ! talk 19:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I asked you because you'd done splits of categories before:) If you know of better people, please kindly point them in my direction... ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @ShakespeareFan00: This particular one is immense (over 20,000 files) and doesn't look easy (no obvious consistent pattern to the filenames that indicates the dates). I suspect someone will have to spend hours, if not days, on this, and it isn't in an area I'm particularly interested in. - Jmabel ! talk 19:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  I was using a regexp on a field in the book template, not the filename ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  Makes sense but, again: why would this be any easier for me to follow through than for people who have been working in that category? I don't bring any special expertise, and nothing here requires an admin. Or am I missing something? - Jmabel ! talk 20:00, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  No worries, I already got you were busy right now. I was giving a technicial explanation of how i was going to proceed when I had time. Generally, I try to find an admin to do big partitions because they have access to bot flags, a normal user doesn't (as well as higher level API access to do mass actions more quickly.). It doesn't need an admin as such, it just gets done more quickly with tools admins can use, but normal users can't. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good morning[edit]

Moved from User talk:Jmabel/Archival
Good evening, with your permission, I would like to know how to make the photos that I took with copyright or copyright Jimmy Yelzer (talk) 17:02, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moved from User talk:Jmabel/Archival - Jmabel ! talk 18:49, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jimmy Yelzer: You cannot "make something copyright". Assuming the work to be copyrightable, I believe that right now under the law of every country in the world, it is copyrighted at creation. If it is legitimately your own work, you own the copyright, and can grant a license. If it is someone else's work, they own the copyright, and only they can grant a license. There is such a thing (in some countries) as transferring copyright, but usually that can only be done by a formal document or declaration by the old copyright-holder. In particular: you cannot take some random thing off of the Internet or off of a television screen and somehow make it OK to upload to Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 19:00, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good evening, my friend[edit]

Good evening, my friend, I'm sorry to bother you, but I wanted to know Mithal. I took a picture with my mobile phone, and I want to copyright it. I mean, the property rights remain in my opinion, because I am a fan of writing articles about the captured personalities, and I have knowledge about places and people. With your permission, I am sorry if this bothers you for free Jimmy Yelzer (talk) 20:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jimmy Yelzer: I have no idea who or what "Mithal" is, nor really what you mean by "the captured personalities" nor "the property rights remain in my opinion."
If you take a picture with your mobile phone, you own the copyright by default (unless it's just a picture of someone else's copyrighted work).
Please, though: there is nothing here that I can uniquely help you with. You already opened up a discussion on the help desk. Please let's keep it there, where anyone can step in, not just me. - Jmabel ! talk 20:30, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good evening[edit]

I want you to teach me how to copyright the photos I took with a camera Jimmy Yelzer (talk) 20:28, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jimmy Yelzer: See my reply above. - Jmabel ! talk 20:30, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please[edit]

Please how can I copyright the pictures I take with my phone camera Jimmy Yelzer (talk) 20:48, 21 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

* @Jimmy Yelzer: See my reply above. - Jmabel ! talk 00:39, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to remove autocomplete from comment summary[edit]

Hi Jmabel: On 05:41, 4 January 2021 you helped me out on the Helpdesk in the thread "How to remove autocomplete from comment summary" (Sorry I don't know how Commons archives discussions). At the time you explained very clearly why edit summary comments are subject to autocomplete, but regular edits are not (thank you!).

Since that time I have periodically experienced strange additIons or removals of text from edits I have made, and am trying to figure out why this happens. Just wondering if you know something about this subject? I realize you are very busy, so please take your time.

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 18:46, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ottawahitech: "strange additions or removals" isn't specific enough for anyone to have a chance of answering you.
Probably better asked on Help desk, where a number of experienced people will see your question, rather than just one. - Jmabel ! talk 18:51, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category pages that look like quasi-Wikipedia articles (VP discussion)[edit]

Atwngirl has responded to your post on their user talk page. Apparently, they were hospitalized due to a car accident and unable to respond at the time. Commons:Village pump/Archive/2023/02#Category pages that look like quasi-Wikipedia articles has already been archived. If you want to re-open the discussion to give them a chance to respond, then that's fine with me. I'm not sure how Commons works regarding that, but you might know since you're an admin, -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:21, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany discussion[edit]

Hi. I'm kind of wondering what the options are for the CfD now that GPSLeo started the competing discussion. It's not super great to have multiple discussion for the same issue going on at once. So is there even a point in leaving the CfD open for further discussion or will whatever the outcome of it is just be null in void because of the proposal? Thanks. Adamant1 (talk) 17:43, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Adamant1: I hate to say it, but my answer is "I don't care". It's a minor political party, about which we will never have a large amount of media, and I walked away from the discussion because it essentially consisted of the same people restating the same positions over and over. - Jmabel ! talk 17:45, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I feel you. I should probably just walk away from it to since they clearly aren't going to be reasonable or care about other people's opinions. I guess it's pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. --Adamant1 (talk) 18:00, 28 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Allentown discussion on Help Desk[edit]

Would you mind taking a look at the HD discussion about Allentown? Altwngirl posted a comment but in the process of doing so completely removed all of the other comments made by others. While I'm sure this was done by mistake, this is the kind of thing that can really piss others off and make them not try to want to help Altwngirl. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:58, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your opinion is requested[edit]

Hi, I asked Jeff G. this question but then I thought you might know more about the subject: Do you think categorizing an airport that did not exist until 1973 as Category:Ben Gurion International Airport in the 1930s, when in the 1930s that area was part of the Category:British Mandate of Palestine, part of the British Empire? Since the airport was named for Ben Gurion after his death in 1973, is this categorization misleading? Am I being too concrete? Too hard-headed? (User:Geagea, an Admin, disagrees with me.) Thanks, Krok6kola Krok6kola (talk) 22:45, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Krok6kola: it's really tricky, especially in a case like this where the names are so loaded with reference to ethnic and national identities (have a look through en:Talk:Gdańsk/Archive index if you want to see it carried to an extreme. Discussion of the name of the article exceeds the length of the article).

We certainly end up with things like Category:1870 in Washington (state) because no one is really invested in distinguishing Washington Territory from Washington State (or, in the case of Category:1845 in Washington (state), the part of Oregon Territory that later became Washington Territory). Similarly for a category like Category:644 in Spain. Spain? in 644? Oh, well.

I'd say the category name Category:Ben Gurion International Airport in the 1930s is probably OK, but it needs parent categories that relate to the political geography of the time (looks like it has that in Category:Aviation in the British Mandate of Palestine, and it certainly ought to have a description indicating what it was known as in that era. - Jmabel ! talk 00:24, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Did Ben Gurion airport exist then? Did it exist under that same name?

The answers to this are pretty obvious: it existed, but as Lydda Airfield and later as Lod Airport. So IMHO, it should be named and categorized as Lydda when that is the contemporary name. These can all be sub-categories of Ben Gurion, as the contemporary name. There is no rule (as is regularly claimed) that category names for subcategories have to match the parent, or each other!

I have no strong opinions on Lydda airfield, airport or even RAF Lydda. It was an airfield. That much is definition-based, we are reasonable to choose to use it as a description and name. As a shared RAF and civilian airfield, it was typical to distinguish this by use: a civilian would describe landing at the airfield, and the military establishment hosted there would be RAF Lydda. Many contemporary maps for pilots already describe it as an airport, which implies a sense of international traffic and the customs facilities to support that – which Lydda did have. In its post–1948 era as Lod this was clearly as Lod Airport, so that should be used for that 25 year period too (and "Airport" is now clear).

More eyes could also be useful at Commons:Categories for discussion/2023/02/Category:Ypenburg Airfield, which involves a massive and half-done bulk rename of airfields in the Netherlands. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:29, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Krok6kola and Andy Dingley: to be honest, I'd have no problem with that either. Maybe Category:Lydda Airfield and Category:Lod Field as subcats of Category:Ben Gurion International Airport, with their own subcats for the various by-year or by-decade categories? But do take a look at the way (for example) Category:1870 in Washington (state) handles this with template {{Washington Territory}} (which I added). I suspect a template like that may be in order no matter what solution is adopted. - Jmabel ! talk 15:21, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I (vaguely) thought that Lod was always an Airport? Andy Dingley (talk) 15:35, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Andy Dingley: Then you are probably right. Zero specific expertise here, just looking at the various acceptable ways similar things have been handled here, not trying to make a concrete suggestion. - Jmabel ! talk 15:43, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jmabel, thanks for your rational reply. I am staying out of this now. Too much vehemence. And with an Admin being unwilling to have a dialogue, it is a useless. My edits having nothing to do with the airport were reverted also, so I am staying away from the whole topic. Krok6kola (talk) 16:58, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A kitten for you![edit]

i am very sorry so i decided to give you a kitten wikilove

--BoulevardBowl27 (talk) 18:00, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

About yesterday...[edit]

Hi Jmabel, today I have seen that the user to whom it was reported yesterday insists on the issue (despite the fact that I said that I would let the matter rest), but as you can see, today he has threatened to denounce me as far as possible, which could be translated as a Wikihounding threat. I am not going to reverse the message and I am only limiting myself to informing about the possible consequences of what this user will do, taking advantage of your position in good faith and avoiding any problematic user. Taichi (talk) 21:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, Jmabel. By allusions, I must say that this user has provoked me by repeatedly whitewashing my discussion without any dealings with him here until I lost my temper, just because he has followed me from Wikipedia in Spanish (wikihounding, maybe?). It is not the first time he has requested my global block, already in Meta had tried, but failed then too, who knows why. Otherwise, it is false that he said that he "would let the matter rest", as he claims in your discussion, but that he took it to the extreme of his possibilities, as you could see. For my part, however everything remains here, just for information. Saludos. — Drachentöter78 (talk) 02:59, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Recent DR's of mine ...[edit]

Can you also take a look at my related DR's? I suspect that some of these are speedy as copyvio, but took them to DR, in case there were other considerations. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:01, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@ShakespeareFan00: Are you talking about Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:ANSI Z535 style symbol or something else? In this case, the ANSI standard would be analogous to a blazon in heraldry, no? Which means there should be no problem with an equivalent of rendering the blazon. - Jmabel ! talk 14:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
On the symbols, I accept that postion.
No I meant the other DR's about PDF documents marked with an ANSI logo, or containing "ANSI/American National Standards Institution" in the metadata. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:17, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ShakespeareFan00:
File:American national standard N43.2 - radiation safety for x-ray diffraction and fluorescence analysis equipment (IA americannational1111unit).pdf comes from the Government Printing Office and was published in 1978 with no copyright notice, at least none I can readily find. What would be the basis to say it is copyrighted?

File:General safety standard for installations using non-medical x-ray and sealed gamma-ray sources, energies up to 10 MeV (IA generalsafetysta114unit).pdf, ditto other than the year being 1975.

File:Radiological safety in the design and operation of particle accelerators (IA radiologicalsafe107amer).pdf, ditto other than the year being 1970.

File:Federal Information Processing Standards Publication- American National Standard PASCAL computer programming language (IA federalinformati109nati).pdf certainly copyrighted: published by Wiley, with IEEE and ANSI copyright notices.
In other words, it's going to come down to individual cases. Just being an ANSI standard doesn't make them public domain (and the Pascal one isn't), but it doesn't magically turn a federal government document into something copyrighted.

Do you want me to copy-paste that to the DR? If there are a bunch more of these I didn't spot, I'd rather not have to go through them one by one, the principle is going to be the same.
(Aside: I actually wrote the debugger for DEC's Pascal-36, the Pascal compiler for the PDP-10 architecture.) - Jmabel ! talk 17:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes please . If you think any of these might be no-notice, also indicate that. My basis for assuming potential copyright is that non-governmental works could not automatically be assumed to be PD. The documents I've put at DR, have an ANSI logo,imprint somewhere as opposed to one that makes the relevant documents un-ambiguously works of NBS/NIST alone. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:48, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ShakespeareFan00: I'll copy that to the relevant DR.

If you have specific other stuff you want me to weigh in on, feel free to give me a list, but please don't make me wade through your contributions looking for which DRs might meet a specific set of criteria! You presumably have some idea which they are, and I'd be starting from zero. - Jmabel ! talk 17:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Going back through my recent DR noms. I find :-
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Federal Information Processing Standards Publication- American National Standard PASCAL computer programming language (IA federalinformati109nati).pdf

Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_found_with_insource:/American_National_Standard/_intitle:pdf

Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with insource:ANSI intitle:/pdf/

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Documents from the NIST Research Library

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Federal Information Processing Standards Publication- programming language FORTRAN (IA federalinformati691nati).pdf

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Federal Information Processing Standards Publication- for information sytems - programming language - correction amendment for COBOL (IA federalinformati214nati 0).pdf

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Federal Information Processing Standards Publication- COBOL

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Federal Information Processing Standards Publication- programming language COBOL (IA federalinformati211nati).pdf

Thanks for the response.

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:03, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can you also take a look through Category:Federal_Information_Processing_Standards_Publication I'm seeing post 1978 ISO documents in there as well. :( ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:30, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ShakespeareFan00: why can I do this any more readily than you can? - Jmabel ! talk 19:31, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As an admin you have the ability to speedy obvious copyvios. As a normal user I can only tag them or start a DR. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:53, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ShakespeareFan00: that's true, but it really doesn't save much of the effort involved, especially if (like the couple of dozen you aimed me at earlier) it requires looking through case-by-case. The looking through is usually the main work.

Just for what it's worth: do you ever use VFC for repeatedly adding a tag like this? It speeds the work tremendously if you've already done enough analysis to know that everything in a particular category or everything that matches a particular search is going to need the same processing. - Jmabel ! talk 21:50, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sometimes I use VFC , Yes. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:54, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

At least for those which are published in the U.S., it is going to come down to either (1) it is a federal government document published by the Government Printing Office, and it is in the public domain or (2) someone else (e.g. ANSI, a press, whatever) has a copyright, will state that somewhere in the first few pages, and it won't be published by the G.P.O. - Jmabel ! talk 19:39, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

IAR[edit]

While I don't fully oppose your removal of the speedy delete tag, I wanted to point out that the speedy delete criteria at G4 state "The author or uploader may ask the deleting administrator to restore the file, or file an Undeletion Request." These were not done in this case; the material was simply re-created and expanded. I will follow-up with other deletion discussion methods. $ɱ$ (talk) 16:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:People by age by country[edit]

What are your thoughts on the way the categories regarding age groups are modeled?

My suggestion would be moving Centenarians from the United States (included in Old people of the United States), Babies of the United States‎ (included in Children of the United States) and Children of the United States‎ (included in Young people of the United States) out of the main category to make it a bit more simple

Thoughts? Trade (talk) 02:10, 19 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Trade: Man, do I hate these categories. They're so incommensurate. I mean, sure Kirk Douglas lived to be 100, but putting Category:Kirk Douglas in Category:Centenarians from the United States? As if he'd never been young? Weirder yet, Category:Savita Ng under Category:Children of the United States: is she supposed to stop growing up? At least no one is (currently) categorized for their whole life under Category:Babies of the United States.
Do note that, in general, the "centenarians" category appears to be used differently from the others: the others are generally about the person at the time the picture was take, whereas "centenarians" is just about them living that long. But independently of that: I think it's a wreck. I can see a reason to distinguish babies and children, because they are so different from adults as photographic subjects, but young vs. middle-aged vs. old? Do we really want to categorize a picture of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Maxwell Frost acting in their current capacity as a member of congress as a picture of a "young person", Kevin McCarthy or Ted Lieu as "middle-aged", Patty Murray or Chuy Garcia as "old"? It just seems to me to be objectifying, uninformative, and ultimately kind of dismissive. - Jmabel ! talk 04:20, 19 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Aren't all categories of humans based on age or appearance by their very nature objectifying? Trade (talk) 12:43, 19 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Trade: And I tend to dislike nearly all of those categories, for just that reason. As I say, I have no objection to categorizing babies and children as such, because they are significantly different photographic subjects, but I find it absurd that a picture of me at this point would be described as an "old man", which tends to suggest decrepitude. I see little or no use for these distinctions in terms of the supposedly educational purpose of Commons. It might be useful for purposes of stock photography, but that is not why Commons exists. As a photographer, categories like this make me hesitate to contribute photographs of people to Commons. Example: four years ago, I had the chance to take a bunch of photos of Steve Perry of the band Journey. I don't think it would be doing anyone a service to slap Category:Old men or any of its subcats on those photos, and it would make me uncomfortable about having indirectly been party to that. [FWIW, I took the photos, uploaded them, no one has added that category, and I hope it stays that way.] - Jmabel ! talk 14:42, 19 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikidata[edit]

Hello. Hope you don't mind, but I'm curious how to Category:Isabella of Castile, Duchess of York and her Wikidata Q434485? Cladeal832 (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Cladeal832: Your sentence lacks a verb (other than the implied "am" in I'm). What further do you want to do with that category and that wikidata item? It looks like you correctly added P273 (P273) and User:Trade did the more important edit that effectively adds the Interwiki. I can't see anything else that remains to be done. - Jmabel ! talk 21:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
He wants to know how to connect Commons categories with Wikidata items Trade (talk) 21:40, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Trade: Yes, but it is already done. - Jmabel ! talk 21:41, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thanks. With some more sleep I would probably have left it alone. –LPfi (talk) 10:23, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello again, Jmabel[edit]

This is what I mean by "harassment". Another user writes to me, with whom I have never had a relationship (but friend of Taichi, I suppose), I think, maybe to keep provoking me, and denounces me. This is the daily life in the Spanish Wikipedia. Un saludo. — Drachentöter78 (talk) 13:38, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Does not sound like fun. But there is really nothing to accomplish by complaining to me as an individual, and not mentioning who is harrassing you. If you have complaints, you really should take them to the relevant admin noticeboard. And you can certainly request that someone not email you in the future, after which you have a clear ground of complaint if they do so. - Jmabel ! talk 15:46, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay, thank you, Jmabel. Actually, they have not written to me by private mail. They just come one after the other to write to me and then to denounce me, it seems. I wouldn't know exactly what to report, I would just like to put it on record. They are like that, acting in packs. — Drachentöter78 (talk) 18:35, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Drachentöter78: To "put it on record" you really ought to go to the Administrators' noticeboard, not my user talk page. - Jmabel ! talk 18:40, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

But what exactly could I denounce, against whom? A generalized way of acting of another project? Some friends there, I suppose, who from time to time write to me and denounce me? — Drachentöter78 (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't know what to say, other than that it is not particularly useful to say all of this to me as an individual. - Jmabel ! talk 18:48, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agreed. And sorry for the inconvenience. — Drachentöter78 (talk) 18:54, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mer information[edit]

"Mer information" is Swedish for "more information" and I believe Knoppson is Swedish-speaking. But either should be easy to understand for them, and it is of course a bit confusing to mix languages like that. Thanks for the vigilance. –LPfi (talk) 10:03, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@LPfi: My apologies. Yes I got thrown by the sudden code switch. - Jmabel ! talk 17:16, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- No problem. –LPfi (talk) 19:01, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment[edit]

I think your girlfriend has your number. Krok6kola (talk) 19:23, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Krok6kola: Quite likely, but her comment was specific to "category splitters" - Jmabel ! talk 19:38, 30 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Nileshpatelxyz[edit]

Hi, on 4 April 2023 you reverted a page move to Category:Nileshpatelxyz, see Commons:Help desk/Archive/2023/04#Reverting a category rename. The category has been created again, and is empty. I think this category should be deleted: can you do this, or should I raise a deletion request in the normal way? Thanks, Verbcatcher (talk) 14:08, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Schooner Equator at the Library of Congress[edit]

@Jmabel fyi, https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/wa0888/ has a little history detail and apparently two undigitized photos of the 'Equator' in the LOC collection. I found that Port of Everett document and article interesting. -- Ooligan (talk) 06:02, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ooligan: looks like the main PDF there is already in the External Links of the en-Wikipedia article. - Jmabel ! talk 14:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Affected:

File:Edo-Tokyo Museum - Lifesize diorama of kabuki play Sukeroki 01 (15151379484).jpg

And also:

Yours sincerely, — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ_{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 08:51, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Flag ratio (again)[edit]

After settling the issue with the British flag ratio, a user has chosen to try to edit war to ensure their preferred ratio is redirected to by the redirect "File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg". Ignoring all discussion and refusing to themselves discuss, they appealled to an administrator who, ignoring consensus, has redirected the redirect and fully protected the page. Could you reverse this to accord with consensus as it stands? GPinkerton (talk) 10:28, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@GPinkerton: As a party who has already expressed an opinion, I am probably not the one who should do this. @Ezarate: , are you following Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg and the prior discussions that led to tat? So far, there is absolutely no consensus here. I really don't want this to turn into an edit war among admins, but I don't think what you did there is appropriate. The relevant "status quo" when an admin protects a page in an edit war, as did User:Mdaniels5757, is the status quo they protect. There is always going to be someone who thinks it's "the wrong version." I see no reason to favor the version that happened to prevail a few months ago, when the whole reason for the redirect was widespread feeling that this title was wrong for that flag.

In any case, I will make a post at the Village pump to try to get more attention to the deletion request. - Jmabel ! talk 14:46, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The status quo is the edition prior to edit war therefore without edition of none of the two editors. Regards!! Ezarateesteban 11:02, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ezarate: That would be the status quo ante. Status quo means "the way things are". Status quo ante means the way things were before. I'm unaware of any policy/guideline about returning to the status quo ante, but I'm very open to seeing that there is one. - Jmabel ! talk 14:54, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Privacy of editors who are minors[edit]

I am not sure if having minors uploading their full name, location and image onto Wikimedia Commons is a good idea. What does policy say about this? Trade (talk) 15:52, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Trade: if it's already out there on Twitter (and more searchable there, because it is text rather than an image) I can't see it making much difference. - Jmabel ! talk 16:55, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Per WP:CHILDPROTECT. Wikipedia considers minorship to end at 15.5 years relative to there birth Stanislov Patrick 473 (talk) 12:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Last remark presumably nonsense, by quickly-banned vandal. - Jmabel ! talk 14:41, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RandomUserGuy1738[edit]

User:RandomUserGuy1738 uploaded File:Please Tag (29079149990).jpg that has been previously deleted thrice already. You have warned him in March 2023. Is it necessary to block him for re-creating previously deleted content despite warnings? A1Cafel (talk) 04:12, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@A1Cafel: its a different account that did it the other three times & I don't think it's a sock. Probably an innocent copying of the same file from Flickr. I'll just delete it. - Jmabel ! talk 04:25, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unsigned[edit]

I just added an unsigned template and incorporated date from the diff for your missed signature at Commons:Deletion requests/Audio files of tango music published after 1922. We should have some good closing apps that automatically add signatures like this reply tool that I am using. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 17:41, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question[edit]

Did I get that correct? You blocked User:Tm for reseting one of Tm's own uploads that was overwritten with a 'uncontroversial better' version by user:FMSky (that was later uploaded under a new name) after you resetted an 'uncontroversial better' version that FMSky uploaded over one of your uploaded files (instead of uploading it under a new name)? [This is a yes/no question, not about any rule, that may have been applied or broken or anything else. I am curious, nothing else.] C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm) (talk) 07:52, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@C.Suthorn: No. I have no idea what may have happened in terms of any overwrites, but I blocked TM for edit warring about categories, where he was repeatedly putting highly specific categories on third-party photos (he may have uploaded some of these, I didn't check, but he was not the photographer) claiming this was based on expertise that TM claimed no one else here was competent to judge, and others were reverting to more general categories that did not require any specialized knowledge. Not sure how you (or anyone) thinks the FMSky thing from half a year ago is related, or even how anyone ran across it in this context, but do not consider that a better version, and if you read Commons:Overwriting existing files you will see that the very fact that the uploader/photographer contests and overwrite is sufficient for it to qualify as controversial.

Question: where did you get the idea that my block of Tm had anything to do with Tm restoring Tm's own version of a photo? I don't remember anything like that even coming up. It might have arisen tangentially in with the half dozen or so examples User:Mztourist and others provided about edit warring, but I don't recall it at all, and if it did I wonder what drew your attention to it. - Jmabel ! talk 15:18, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:C.Suthorn please provide a diff of what you are referring to. My original complaint and Jmabel's block of Tm was solely related to his/her edit-warring of weapons categories. It had nothing to do with overwriting files. Mztourist (talk) 16:43, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the answer (i.e. "No"). I was not aware about a dispute WRT categories. Many edits by Tm appear in my watchlist, the categories in question do not appear on my watchlist, therefore this created the impression I had and that i asked about. If I had not asked I would still have this impression, that I do now now was not the real situation. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm) (talk) 08:16, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why oh why?[edit]

Why is there Category:Pictographs in the United States by state, but pictographs in the rest of the world, of which there are far more, not allowed but must go under e.g. Category:Rock art in Haiti? (I can't even remember the category correctly, even though I just dealt with it!) Except for a few countries, the rest of the world is basically ignored. This category system is horrible. Krok6kola (talk) 23:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Krok6kola: Presumably because the category system grows "organically". It looks like Category:Pictographs in New Mexico dates back to 2010, Category:Rock paintings goes back to 2012, and the bridging in between happened over time. Category:Petroglyphs in New Mexico also goes back to 2010. I'm not sure I understand the difference between pictographs and petroglyph (though there may well be one), and how (if at all) each differs from "rock paintings" in general (though it is clear that there are many forms of "rock art" that are not "rock paintings"). It might be worth a CfD or other discussion to try to get this clear, or someone could look into whether the respective Wikipedia articles clarify this.

Krok6kola, feel free to ping people into the discussion right here if you can see in the various category histories who looks like they might best help sort this out. My gut says that all rock paintings, or at least all pre-modern rock paintings, are "petroglyphs"; not sure what distinguishes a "pictograph"; and I would not call (for example) modern graffiti on a rock a "petroglyph", though it is presumably still a "rock painting". - Jmabel ! talk 23:58, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(edit conflict):Just hunted the correct category down and corrected above. Who makes these decisions? It is done away with by a redirect, although Category:Petroglyphs by country does exist. (And don't tell me "Categories for discussion" because nothing ever gets settled there.) Krok6kola (talk) 00:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't want to get into endless crazy discussions. I'd rather just complain to you! Krok6kola (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]