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(Mae'r canlynol yn gysylltiedig â'r uchod rhywsut dwi'n siwr) Mi wnes i drosi Template:Listed building Wales i'r Gymraeg ac mae popeth yn edrych yn iawn ar bob delwedd unigol e.e. yma, ond am ryw reswm mae'n ymddangos yn wallus ar ben categori, gan ddweud "Dyma a category about adeilad rhestredig rhif 13674". Rhaid bod yr darn "a category about" yn dod o rhywle arall ond lle? Unrhyw syniad sut i drwsio hyn? --Rhyswynne (talk) 14:34, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
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- Please hold fire; as you can see I'm working very hard on these images. I'm in the process of creating a Template to hold all images from Visit Wales, and the information you request will be on this new Template. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 12:09, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- All that "strictly for the promotion and marketing of tourism and / or inward investment" writing is a violation of Commons:Project scope#Must be freely licensed or public domain#Non-allowable licence terms. Restrictions on where the work may be used are not allowed. So either the file is freely licensed or public domain, in that case the restrictions are entirely irrelevant and there is no need to mention them here, or the file is not free. --Martin H. (talk) 20:46, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- This morning Mark Thomas (Head of Creative Services Cadw / VW) confirmed the CC-BY-SA license(see his email VW I copied on File:Aerial view of Caerleon Roman amphitheatre.jpg. At 2.00 pm he phoned and we talked for an hour. He had realsied that he would be breaking his own NC restriction dictated by Crown Copyright. I also take your point that we couldn't accept their restrictions / terms. For now, I'll take the 5 images without CC-BY-SA authorisation off Commons while we continue to discuss ways to overcome Crown Copyright. They have over 20,000 Cadw images which they really want to be available to the public. I've offered him several options eg we keep low res, they sell high res; I'll keep you informed. Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 21:09, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading your voice. :-) I think you meant 2013 at the end, though, rather than 2014? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:28, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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Taxus baccata map query[edit]
Hi Llywelyn - I wanted to query what does File:Counties with yew trees over 900 years old.png show? The RFS source document doesn't make any mention of an age cutoff of 900 years (which is undeterminable!), just girth categories 'Veteran', 'Ancient', and 'Exceptional', so maybe the file is wrongly titled? Also, what do the different intensities of green mean? On the RFS map, Perthshire and Northumberland both have one 'Exceptional' and two 'Veteran' yews, but you have Perthshire mapped light green, and Northumberland not coloured at all; what's the difference? Diolch yn fawr! - MPF (talk) 13:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks for pointing this out! The source, if I remember corectly, was: ancient-yew.org - and the definition of '(A) Ancient, (V) Veteran, (N) Notable is also to be found on that very comprenhensive site. When I have time I will revisit the map, as it doesn't conform exactly to the counties system / boundaries of the time the articles were written. I think I need the old counties map. I've added the above link to the image. Many thanks again. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:18, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
- PS I've added a category on this here which by now has over 200 images. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! Yep, the old counties — or perhaps even more accurately, the Watsonian botanical recording areas (File:Great Britain Vice Counties.png) — are what should be used; plant mapping does not recognise modern inventions like "tyne and wear". - MPF (talk) 15:35, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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Listed buildings[edit]
FFS, please DON'T add every frigging image to a "Listed buildings in Wales" category, when they are already in a building category that is in the main category! That way you wreck the system. There are already over 5,000 images in the main "Listed buildings in Wales", making it unusable. Please remove these. Johnbod (talk) 03:07, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Please refrain from this kind of language, John; it's negative and not not really needed.
- @MichaelMaggs and Richard Nevell (WMUK): The category you refer to was added automatically by the amended Wizard linked to the main WLM Wales category and can be easily deleted or hidden. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 07:34, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- We are aware there is some over-categorisation. The category has been automatically added as part of the WLM contest every year to date, and has been a useful convenience for reviewers and Commons editors who want to concentrate on looking after images in Wales. Before considering not adding it next year - and the corresponding England, Scotland and NI categories - we would want to be sure that all the 500,000+ individual building categories are actually present and in the correct higher category. I think that most buildings don't actually have their own individual category at all, yet. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 08:40, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Michael. It certainly makes sense to me. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 09:16, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Indeed, while we don't want to swamp the general categories it is part of a process before the categorisation is then refined. I can understand why seeing a category which in theory is meant to have 0 files fill up with new images would cause consternation, but it is not intended to be permanent and files will be added to more specific categories. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 09:48, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Michael. It certainly makes sense to me. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 09:16, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, what I said above wasn't quite accurate, and perhaps needed more detail. Let me try again:
- We are aware there is some over-categorisation. The Wales category - and the corresponding categories for England, Scotland and NI - are automatically added by the WLM upload wizard. That's been done every year so far, but can possibly be dropped next year now that we have a Wikidata identifier for every building. For England especially, the problem is that the Wikidata ID can't programatically be used to put the building into a reliable higher-level cat such as Listed buildings in Yeovil, nor even into a more generic one such as Listed buildings in Somerset. The official listing data uses old geographic areas that no longer correspond to anything useful in the real world, nor to anything we'd want to set up on Commons. So, images of the 500,000 or so grade II listed buildings in England that don't yet have their own Commons building category can't yet automatically be placed anywhere other than 'England'. The upload wizard is controlled and configured by the WLM international team, not by the UK organisers still less the contributors. Maybe next year we'll ask the international organizers if we can get the upload wizard modified so that it checks on the fly whether the Wikidata ID corresponds to an already-existing Commons building cat that is itself within a higher-level cat, and if that's the case refrain from adding "Listed buildings in Wales" or whatever. That may or may not be something they'd be able to do.
- We are aware there is some over-categorisation. The category has been automatically added as part of the WLM contest every year to date, and has been a useful convenience for reviewers and Commons editors who want to concentrate on looking after images in Wales. Before considering not adding it next year - and the corresponding England, Scotland and NI categories - we would want to be sure that all the 500,000+ individual building categories are actually present and in the correct higher category. I think that most buildings don't actually have their own individual category at all, yet. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 08:40, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- In any case, the issue you've identified here is known about and will be taken into account next year. It's nothing to do with Llywelyn2000, who has spent countless hours taking many thousands of images for Commons and has entered them into the contest in the normal way. MichaelMaggs (talk) 10:05, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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FYI there is a category Category:Quality images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2017 of England inside Category:Quality images from Wiki Loves Monuments UK 2017. -- Colin (talk) 13:26, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
- Many thanks Colin! I learn every day! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 14:33, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
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About the catalonian chart[edit]
I've updated it and removed the english title. In fact if you could post it on the english wikipedia page it could be a good thing since I'm banned here (for using a VPN, no worries). Have a good day ! Toniotti — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toniotti (talk • contribs) 18:59, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Green man[edit]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Thornewood_-_grounds_06.jpg&diff=301356257&oldid=184906240: how is this not a Green Man (in the center)?
Also, on some others: how modern is "modern"? The chair in File:Snohomish - Blackman House Museum 06.jpg, for example, is probably early 20th-century. - Jmabel ! talk 00:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- First time I looked at it I saw a bearded man in hat! Looking closer, I think you're right, so I've added 'Category:Modern depictions of the Green Man'.
- How long is a piece of string?! I'm using the word 'modern' here as it's used throughout Commons eg the above image has another category: 'Category:Modern stone urns as decoration'. As the Green Man goes way back to the Age of Saints ('Dark ages' in English), I should think that anything after c. 1900 would be 'modern'. Thanks for this, I did think of defining the period on the Category page, but I haven't come accross this on Comons in the past. Let me know how you feel on this. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 09:05, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- I think you should give a definition on the category page. In some terms, 1600 is "modern"; in others, at the other extreme, it applies only if the depiction is in Modernist style, so by the latter even something absolutely current isn't "modern" if it's sufficiently historicist. - Jmabel ! talk 16:10, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- That's very helpful of you; I think we should go for the former, as the modernisimo style isn't as relevant as the length of time. Many thanks! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 07:13, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- I think you should give a definition on the category page. In some terms, 1600 is "modern"; in others, at the other extreme, it applies only if the depiction is in Modernist style, so by the latter even something absolutely current isn't "modern" if it's sufficiently historicist. - Jmabel ! talk 16:10, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Since you're active here, I thought I'd ask but I think you had a typo with Category:1919 establishments in Wales in 1988. Is that supposed to be Category:1988 establishments in Wales? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:03, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Many thanks! yes indeed, a typo; now fixed. Best regards.... Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:37, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Sain audio files[edit]
N.B. This conversation is a continuation of this previous one here.
Hi. I think your efforts to upload all the deleted Sain files to the English and Welsh Wikipedias will fail, because they would only be accepted under similar rules to those of Commons or as as 'fair use' files. 'Fair use' requires that each file is used in an article, among other requirements. We may be able to restore some of the files based on the file names, such as File:O Soave Fanciulla - Arthur Davies.ogg which is an aria by w:Giacomo Puccini and is out of copyright. I was hoping that there was a way that selected users could be given access to the deleted files for the purpose of checking them - I think administrators can access these files - but Majora's reply indicates that this can't be done. I suspect that there is a way to revert a deletion operation, especially as we could construct a list of the deleted files, but I don't think we can make a case for this to be done for these files. Regards, Verbcatcher (talk) 14:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Verbcatcher! And thanks again. All were used on cy-wiki, as there was a project to ensure just that, with many users placing them into articles. So I'm not worried about cy-wiki, however, you're correct it would be difficult on en-wiki, unless a similar project copuld be launched. The undelete would be temporarily (a few days), just enough time to reupload onto cy-wiki. @Jason.nlw: do you still have the script used by the uploading tool (I think it was Commonista?) Where there's a will, there's always a way forward! Thanks again! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 14:15, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Every fair use file must be used in at least one article, see w:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. In my view inclusion in a list article would be insufficient. Also, every fair use file must have an individual fair use justification. The copyright laws in England and in Wales are the same and the same the Wikimedia Foundation laywers would be involved, so it is likely that very similar fair use criteria apply to the Welsh and English Wikipedias. Also, not all the files are all used on cy-wiki, for example File:Arafa Don - Arthur Davies.ogg does not give any cy-wiki pages under Global file usage Verbcatcher (talk) 15:51, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Google Translate shows that w:cy:Wicipedia:Meini prawf cynnwys cyfyngedig is essentially the same as w:en:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, and is probably a translation of it. Verbcatcher (talk) 15:57, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Verbcatcher - I have just read w:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, and can find no mention of lists, or that placing audio files in a list-article in any way goes against the 10 commandments listed on that page. Also, each file has an individual fair use justification. Can you expand on your view please, that inclusion in a list article would be insufficient, as a list article is also an article. If you are correct, then the list could easily be moved to the article on the singer; that's no problem. I would also suggest that the 10 commandments be changed to reflect your new policy, guideline if what you say is found by the community to be correct. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:12, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- w:WP:NFLISTS says that it is "inadvisable" to put non-free material in lists as it very very rarely manages to meet the requirements set by enwiki. I used to do non-free patrol over there and I've never seen it work so "inadvisable" is more close to "banned" in my opinion. As for the mass deletion script I've looked at a few different admins' .js pages and I'm not seeing one. I've looked at user script listing and I'm not seeing one. I don't really know what to tell you here. Also, like I said before, I'd be happy to delete specific files if you were to give me a list of file names. I'm not comfortable mass undeleting all of them to begin with since there are confirmed copyright violations within those files. --Majora (talk) 16:54, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Llywelyn2000, I am probably less experienced in this area than Majora, but I think that you are proposing the inclusion of these clips in a list article simply to make them qualify as non-free files. This runs against the spirit of w:Wikipedia:Non-free content and I doubt that this would be accepted even if there is no specific rule to forbid it. Moreover, it is counter to the second rationale at w:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria: "To minimize legal exposure by limiting the amount of non-free content...". I think there are also issues with criteria 3a: 'Minimal number of items', and with criteria 8: 'Contextual significance'. However, my main reason is gut feel: getting around the non-free content rules in this way would be too good to be true, and things that are too good to be true are usually not true. Verbcatcher (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- w:WP:NFLISTS says that it is "inadvisable" to put non-free material in lists as it very very rarely manages to meet the requirements set by enwiki. I used to do non-free patrol over there and I've never seen it work so "inadvisable" is more close to "banned" in my opinion. As for the mass deletion script I've looked at a few different admins' .js pages and I'm not seeing one. I've looked at user script listing and I'm not seeing one. I don't really know what to tell you here. Also, like I said before, I'd be happy to delete specific files if you were to give me a list of file names. I'm not comfortable mass undeleting all of them to begin with since there are confirmed copyright violations within those files. --Majora (talk) 16:54, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Verbcatcher - I have just read w:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, and can find no mention of lists, or that placing audio files in a list-article in any way goes against the 10 commandments listed on that page. Also, each file has an individual fair use justification. Can you expand on your view please, that inclusion in a list article would be insufficient, as a list article is also an article. If you are correct, then the list could easily be moved to the article on the singer; that's no problem. I would also suggest that the 10 commandments be changed to reflect your new policy, guideline if what you say is found by the community to be correct. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:12, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks both. Just back from a few days at London, and can't look further into this for at least another 4 or 5 days. Hold on please! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 00:27, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Vandalism on Category:Artificial lakes in Wales[edit]
Please take a look at Category:Artificial lakes in Wales. Thanks. Cell Danwydd (talk) 13:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Fyi[edit]
Please see File:Castell-Madryn.jpg. Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 22:03, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
New video[edit]
There's a new video on the Welsh Gov site: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrDDiM4GSxo, which has better footage. I've replaced File:Geraint Thomas St David Award 2015 (Cropped).webm with this new video of Geraint Thomas. I hope this helps. I'll do a few others when I have time. Cell Danwydd (talk) 05:20, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Diolch gyfaill! Ia, rho nhw ar erthyglau WP hefyd! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:10, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
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Reminder[edit]
Hi Llywelyn2000. I noticed that you've made a malformed deletion request. When you want to delete a file by manually using the {{Delete}} template, please remember to follow the instructions in the template, including the "Click here to show further instructions" portion, otherwise you will create a lot of work for other people. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Re File:Slide4 (26822498098).jpg Just followed the template's instructions exactly as per instructions. It seemed very different to the others! A lot of bother - easier to just press delete myself, with my own uploads! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 16:19, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, the instructions should mean copying what you see on the page, not the wikitext that displays it. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
duplicates[edit]
Hi, many (or most) of your recent uploads are duplicate of files already on Commons. --Túrelio (talk) 09:46, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, you're right! Doesn't the tool spot duplicates, like Wizard? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:10, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- Don't know, never used it. You might ask User:A1Cafel; he often deals with such problems. --Túrelio (talk) 10:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Túrelio! I'll ask. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:19, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- Don't know, never used it. You might ask User:A1Cafel; he often deals with such problems. --Túrelio (talk) 10:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
WLE 2021[edit]
I am trying to find out who authorized Wales to enter WLE 2021 as a Sovereign nation. This is an unacceptable political statement. Can you help please. Charlesjsharp (talk) 18:54, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- The authorisation was made by WLE. Wales is a country; their rules refer to 'countries' (not 'sovereign nations'). Llywelyn2000 (talk) 13:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Your Flickr uploads[edit]
Hi, you might have noticed that your recent uploads ended up in Category:Unsourced Flickr images because you using the album link, not the individual photo links, as the source URL. Also, I notice that you’re generally uploading low-res versions of photographs. Commons policy is to upload at the highest resolution available.
Since you’re uploading multiple files from the same Flickr album, have you considered using Flickr2Commons? It’s useful for making batch uploads because you can upload directly from Flickr without downloading to your computer first. And for cropping, I suggest using CropTool. These tools are fairly intuitive and should help make things easier for both you and other editors. Thanks. Ytoyoda (talk) 13:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi thanks for your thoughts, which I will follow up now. I've tried Flickr2Commons in the past. It wouldn't work at all this morning, alas. 2ndly, it doesn't recognise if the image already exists, whereas the Wizzard uploader does. Thanks again! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 13:13, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, that's too bad. What you could do though, is use the Flickr upload option on Upload Wizard so it enters the source information automatically. Thanks again. Ytoyoda (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's a new one for me! Many thanks! I added the direct individual link a second ago, then changed FlickrReviewer, and hey presto, it uploaded the original high quality automatically! That's really very, very clever! Thanks Ytoyoda!!! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 13:26, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, that's too bad. What you could do though, is use the Flickr upload option on Upload Wizard so it enters the source information automatically. Thanks again. Ytoyoda (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Wici'r Holl ddaear[edit]
Dw i di dreu categori newydd i betha amheus, lle da ni di gadal neges am chwanag o wybodaeth: Category:Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2021 in Wales/Awaiting location details. Monsyn (talk) 06:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Earth / Wici'r Holl Ddaear[edit]
Thank you for taking part in Wiki Loves Earth Wales | |
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WLE 2021 map[edit]
Could you please add the Philippines in the map. Thanks! -Filipinayzd (talk) 16:48, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
My photos[edit]
Hi there, mnay thanks for you mail, but unfortunately I've never been able to access Wiki mails. Could you post on my talk page or mail charlesjsharp@hotmail.com, many thanks Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:31, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Captions on the Welsh Wikipedia[edit]
Hi Llywelyn2000
I have added a number of images to cy:Wikipedia, but have had to rely on Google Translate for the caption. I don't know how good Google translate is when translating into Welsh, it is pretty poor for Afrikaans, but I cannot fault it for Dutch (I speak both languages). When, in future, I add images, is there anybody (or anywhere) that I can get my captions checked?
I have chosen to write to you since I notice that both you and I have crossed swords with somebody who is an expert on the "Welsh not" (can he read Welsh?), the metric system and whose sockpuppet (who does not read either Afrikaans or Dutch) is an expert on South African history. Martinvl (talk) 10:27, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! Yes, Google Translate is superb in Welsh, but still needs to be verified by hand and eye! I'll check your work later on, but thanks for contributing! All the best... PS No, he has no Welsh! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:23, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Er gwybodaeth, dwi'n copio hwn yma yn ogystal ag ar dudalen sgwrs Martinvl) Saw this message yesterday as it must be on my watchlist after an edit I made. I've been through all contributions up to the last one in December 2020 under cy username Martinvl (is that correct?). Some minor changes were necessary, mainly to do with mutations which I'm surprised Google didn't get correct. In one adit you added a caption Hyfforddi cyrraedd gyrfa Torpantau, which literally means 'Training reaching Torpantau gyrfa' I can guess that the training bit means 'the train'(!) but gyrfa has many meanings. What were you trying to say?--Rhyswynne (talk) 11:09, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- Diolch Rhys! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Er gwybodaeth, dwi'n copio hwn yma yn ogystal ag ar dudalen sgwrs Martinvl) Saw this message yesterday as it must be on my watchlist after an edit I made. I've been through all contributions up to the last one in December 2020 under cy username Martinvl (is that correct?). Some minor changes were necessary, mainly to do with mutations which I'm surprised Google didn't get correct. In one adit you added a caption Hyfforddi cyrraedd gyrfa Torpantau, which literally means 'Training reaching Torpantau gyrfa' I can guess that the training bit means 'the train'(!) but gyrfa has many meanings. What were you trying to say?--Rhyswynne (talk) 11:09, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Llywelyn2000! Why did you add a lot of subtitles made by online translator to the video above? Is it common practice for you? You know that subtitles have different kinds of errors, I notice them in French, Italian, Russian, and it's only those which I opened up... I think it's descrediting Commons. And I would suggest to find native speackers for checking online translations or nomate the file for deletion, unfortunately. — Pacha Tchernof (talk) 19:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi and thanks for your comments. Apart from the opening sentence the Russian translation gives a good idea to the reader of what Bale says. You're very welcome to correct it. Here's a translation of the Russian translation: Representing Wales means everything to me - put on a red sweater, welsh dragon, play for the public, there is nothing better feeling for me and when the anthem continues, this is one of those special moments you savor every time. I think there are plans to try to win Euro 2016. We know it will be difficult task, but we are not going to do numbers, if we can win we will, we'll try our best.
- The file is used on nwiki, eswiki, frwiki, ptwiki, ruwiki, cswiki, cawiki, cywiki, euwiki, zhwiki and 加雷斯·贝尔, so please discuss with those communities before deleting. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Not St John in Ysbyty Ifan[edit]
Hi Llywelyn,
this is not the church as you present this photograph. Perhaps, it is the last image of the church you had visited before.
See the other photos in the category of St John's church, and see Google streetview.
Best wishes, --Ulamm (talk) 17:26, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Ulamm. I think it is the church at Ysbyty Ifan, actually, but taken from a different angle. I'll need to revisit to check this on. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:41, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Looked again: there is no steeple! So I think you're right; and there are other images in this category which are ify. Can't visit for a few months but will try asap. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:53, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Not St Hychan's Church near Ruthin[edit]
Hello Llywelyn!
Unfortunalely, I have found one more erroneous localization among your uploads:
St Hychan's Church in Llanychan near Ruthin has one roof only. This church has two parallel roofs ("forked roofs"), obviously.
Best wishes, --Ulamm (talk) 21:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- You're right! Many thanks. I'll need to search through my images taken in that year. Thanks for the spot! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Ulamm, those two images should be of Llandyrnog church. I moved them to Category:Church of St Tyrnog, Llandyrnog (interior) (and turned the old cat into a redirect) but @Llywelyn2000: the image names, descriptions, and coordinates etc will need to be changed. Dogfennydd (talk) 23:46, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Earth Wales 2022[edit]
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- Grand! Thanks! There is an easier way of course, which is to allow trusted editors to delete what they've created, when necessary. We do this all the time on WP (without any discussion), as Admins, so it should be possible on Commons. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:11, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, the only users trusted to do that here are Commons Admins. You left off the timestamp in this edit. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 09:47, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
File:Ar y llwybr i Gastell Dinas Emrys - the Iron Age hillfort of Dinas Emrys surrounding area; Snowdonia National Park, Gwynedd, Wales. 14.jpg[edit]
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- Indeed, please delete! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Wales = country?[edit]
Please provide evidence that Wales is a country or there is consensus for this point of view (maybe I missed something?), else this kind of edits is vandalism. Regards --A.Savin 09:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- ALL sources dictate that Wales is a country, and that country is within Europe. It's not a sub-country, it's not a region, it's a country and a nation. See: w:Talk:Wales: The issue of whether Wales is a country or not has been repeatedly raised:
- The result of all these debates is that Wales is indeed a country. This has been confirmed in formal mediation. The discussion is summarised in this archive here.
- Every UK Prime Ministers have used the terms 'country' and 'nation' to describe Wales, including Boris Johnson eg The Prime Minister's Website and Boris Johnson in the Telegraph. Also: Reuters, The Guradian, Health Foundation, FT, Head of ONS quoted on the BBC and Institute for Government.
- Wikimedia Commons does not restrict the definition of 'country' to 'States defined by UNESCO / UN'. All countries are countries. Wales is a country within geographical Europe; it is also a country within the United Kingdom, and the sources also agree with this. All the best! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:39, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Wales is indeed a country, but the convention for categorisation in Commons and in English Wikipedia is for the 'XXX in Wales' categories to be a subcategories of 'XXX in the United Kingdom', and for 'XXX in the United Kingdom' to be in 'XXX by country'. This helps to keep the categorisation hierarchical, which is simpler for users. In my view this does not deny that Wales is a country. I don't know what the convention is in Welsh Wicipedia or the other Wikiepdia language editions.
- You could discuss this convention at Commons:Village pump or at Commons talk:Categories. Or on English Wikipedia at w:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories and/or at w:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wales and its equivalents for the other countries of the UK. You should not make piecemeal changes that break a widespread convention unless you can establish a consensus to do so. Regards, Verbcatcher (talk) 12:44, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- There is no such convention, other than your edits. In fact the convention is the opposite on Commons. More importantly, COM:OVERCAT actually lists 'countries' as exceptions to the rule:
- Countries may be categorized as part of multiple overlapping categories. For example, Category:India is in Category:Countries of South Asia as well as Category:Countries of Asia.
- If you want to change Wikimedia Commons' policy, I suggest you go to COM:OVERCAT's Talk page and raise the matter. Thank you for your interest. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 13:12, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Llywelyn2000: For Commons it is not relevant what exactly is the naming of a subdivision (be it state, region, country, voivodeship, oblast or whatever). For Commons most relevant is the usability of our category system, and it is most usable if we use Common sense and call a country only what is commonly known as a country. I fully understand that a non-independent subdivision sometimes may call itself a country too. In Germany, there are three Federal states (Bavaria, Saxony, Thuringia) that are officially called "free country". This obviously does not mean we should treat them as independent countries here on Commons. Anyway you should seek community consensus, if you disagree. Regards --A.Savin 18:40, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Whose 'common sense'? Your common sense is very different to mine! Common sense is not monolithic, and can be a very insideous way of controlling a minority. Common sense should be based on accurate, well sourced citations, which I have already given. Your analogy that Wales = Thuringia etc shows your lack of information of Wales' standing in the world. Unlike Bavaria, my friend, Wales has several international football teams (Wales women's 'national' football team, 'Wales 'national' football team' (men's), Wales 'national' under-21 football team etc etc), an International Rugby Team (Wales women's 'national' rugby union team, Wales 'national' under-20 rugby union teame, Wales 'national' rugby union team etc etc). It has a 'National' Museum of Wales (including the 'National' Museum Cardiff, St Fagans 'National' History Museum and Big Pit 'National' Coal Museum), a 'National' Library etc etc. Until recently, it had a National Assembly, which is now called the 'Senedd', the Parliament of Wales, which legislates. It also has a Welsh National College). 'National' in Wales refers to Wales, not the UK.
- As stated, COM:OVERCAT, our official policy, trumps your 'common sense' in every way, and it is you who "should seek community consensus, if you disagree" with it. All the best! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:47, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well, please let me note that it is actually you who is violating COM:OVERCAT. Because, if a Wales-related category is sorted "by country" and "in the UK" at the same time (with the latter being fully correct, unlike the former), we get an over-categorization, obviously.
- As for the "country or not" question, probably you forgot the purpose of Wikimedia projects. It is not to promote the point of view of a part of the Wales' people (even if it is a majority part). We have to be neutral, and so to define a country we should have a commonly understandable criteria for that. What might be more understandable than the UN definition?
- That said, I don't think that the presence of a National football team is sufficient criterion for treating Wales as a country in Commons categories. (Actually, these distinct football teams in the UK are a unique exception that has more to do with the history of football than the political status of Wales, Scotland etc.) And btw, did you know that England is not sorted as a "country of Europe"? How is Wales any different? Regards --A.Savin 10:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- To reiterate: Countries may be categorized as part of multiple overlapping categories. For example, Category:India is in Category:Countries of South Asia as well as Category:Countries of Asia. Now then, Category:Castles in Wales can have two parent categories: Castles in the United Kingdom + Castles by country|Wales; they don't conflict in any way; they overlap, just like the example given in COM:OVERCAT. If you think that having both is not nutral, then that is your view, your pov. Just like the example of India, Wales has both hats, a fact proven by the hundreds of reliable citations, which I have provided; you have provided no citations.
- If Wales, as you say, is an 'unique exception', so be it! This is no reason not to follow COM:OVERCAT.
- You might say that the UN definition of a country is the criteria. Please show where this is stated on Commons as policy. It isn't. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
- The Wikimedia community is an inclusive one: its purpose and aims lie within, and can accept both Wales as a country and one of the UK countries at the same time. That's what the sources tell us. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- From the header of Category:Countries: " A country is a region that is identified as a distinct national entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state." Is Wales an independent sovereign state? No. Is Wales occupied by another state? No. If that's enough for you as official policy, that's it. And where there is no official policy on Commons, we should use Common sense. Regards --A.Savin 10:48, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- You say what?! You say Is Wales occupied by another state? No.!!! Of course it is! Unlike Scotland but similar to Ireland, Wales was taken over by the sword! We never agreed to any form of Union! Please read about the subject before entering into a conversation about it! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 11:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- From the header of Category:Countries: " A country is a region that is identified as a distinct national entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state." Is Wales an independent sovereign state? No. Is Wales occupied by another state? No. If that's enough for you as official policy, that's it. And where there is no official policy on Commons, we should use Common sense. Regards --A.Savin 10:48, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Llywelyn2000: your edit may or may not be forbidden by the policies in Commons:Categories. However, it conflicts with the universality principle: "Categorization structure should be as systematical and unified as possible". I have not made an exhaustive survey, but my experience is that the overwhelming majority of categories that relate to Wales and to the other UK nations are structured in the way I have described, and that this is so pervasive that it amounts to a convention. Verbcatcher (talk) 10:29, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- The Universality principle refers to the names of countries, not to their status: and it even has an exception - if possible; in this case, it not possible, not desirable to go against reliable sources and treat Wales ONLY as a part of the UK. It is also a country. Even if the Universality principle refers to the status of Wales, and if it is allowed to over-ride COM:OVERCAT then every exeption in all Commons policies would need to be deleted. If you do really think that bulldozing Wales in this manner is a good thing, just get rid of COM:OVERCAT and all other exceptions. Until then, COM:OVERCAT gives India the right to be under both 'Category:Countries of South Asia' as well as 'Category:Countries of Asia'. Same with Wales.
- Whether or not 'the overwhelming majority of categories that relate to Wales' have just the UK parent cat or both the UK and Wales matters not. The overriding criteria is what the relaible sources say. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:59, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm bringing this conversation to an end.
Change our policies or move on. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 11:11, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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Update of NLW URL needed[edit]
Hello Llywelyn2000,
I've just clicked the link on the NLW graphic and I find it has been replaced by https://www.library.wales/ -- you might like to change it. Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 13:41, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Simon. When you say 'the NLW graphic', do you mean the main graphic on Institution:National Library of Wales? If so, I can't replicate the error. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 14:08, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Llywelyn2000: Sorry -- I sent this just before I went to bed and I should have left it till the morning! No wonder you couldn't understand it...
- I was referring to this graphic:
The source of this file is http://www.llgc.org.uk/en/. The website is managed by the National Library of Wales. |
- And the thing I observed was that the URL it quotes, http://www.llgc.org.uk/en/, is no longer the NLW addres -- it's now https://www.library.wales/. I thought I'd let you know because if you're like me, a change in a frequently seen setup like this often doesn't leap out from the screen. Best wishes, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 11:18, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Ah! Many thanks Simon. I've just updated the url now. All the best! Robin aka Llywelyn2000 (talk) 14:10, 17 May 2023 (UTC)