User talk:Polda18

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Discuss with me

Feeling free to discuss with me. You can use czech, if you like. Don't feel well to talk with me? You might not, it's only about you to make discussion. -- ♠ Polda18 ♠ 15:08, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

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[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

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• Image:Quake Live sign.png was uncategorized on 17 December 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
• Image:Quake Live logo.jpg was uncategorized on 17 December 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Images categorised to Quake Live logos --Polda18 (talk) 14:45, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Quake Live logo.jpg

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BartłomiejB (talk) 22:46, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Understand, won't upload any fair use logo since then. Thank you for announce, Polda18 (talk) 12:39, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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The 2013 Picture of the Year competition has ended and we are pleased to announce the results: We shattered participation records this year — more people voted in Picture of the Year 2013 than ever before. In both rounds, 4070 different people voted for their favorite images. Additionally, there were more image candidates (featured pictures) in the contest than ever before (962 images total).

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3. In third place, 131 people voted for an image of a swallow flying and drinking.

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commons:Photo challenge-translations

Hello Polda18,
I noticed your Czech Watchlist Message yesterday and just saw that you also translated the entire Photo challenge main page - if you are interested, I can give you the links for the remaining photo challenge pages we are translating - if I'm not mistaken, that means three pages that have to be translated once and of course the challenge descriptions, which have to be done every month (normally about two to three sentences for as many challenges during the last/first days of a month).
Best wishes, Anna reg (talk) 09:16, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

@Anna reg: I was looking to the challenge pages and saw only the main page translatable. If the translation option was added forth to subsections, then I would be happy to translate also the remaining pages. Thank you :) — Polda18 (talk page • contributions) 12:04, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello Polda18,

Sorry for the late answer, somehow I missed yours (perhaps you were two quick for me ;->). I'll give you the links for March, as that's what we are preparing at the moment

• User:HelenOnline/sandbox/Photo challenge template#March (preparation of the watchlist message)
• Commons:Photo challenge/2015 - March - Black and White (challenge 1)
• Commons:Photo challenge/2015 - March - Steps, Stairs and Staircases (challenge 2)
• Template:Photo challenge rules
• Template:Photo challenge rules footer

I hope, I didn't miss anything... ;->

Best wishes, Anna reg (talk) 12:44, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

I forgot the voting header... by the way, the list of links I gave you sounds worse than it is - only the first three change from month two month, but they normally only include two to three sentences. The rest of the challenge introductions doesn't change and is therefore included in two templates (photo challenge rules and the footer) - and the voting header explains the voting rules in a few sentences.

Hope I didn't scare you away by first answering late and then posting a whole list of links... ;->

Best wishes, Anna reg (talk) 13:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

All subpages linked here processed, there are templates that are not translated to czech, though, also the examples gallery caption is not translatable. Anyway, commons users should know english at least at the basic level, so it does not matter that much. Thank you for the list :) — Polda18 (talk page • contributions) 15:08, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Polda18!

I agree with you that a bit English is necessary on commons, but apparently the challenge descriptions exceeded those basics (we started translating after we got some complains that the descriptions were difficult to understand). If it's okay with you I'll notify you again as soon as the challenge pages for April are ready for translation - which will probably be at the end of March (even though I already started the decision making process - but as nobody really wants to decide, that always needs time... ;->)

Best wishes, Anna reg (talk) 15:59, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Glad to help :) Thank you for the kick :) — Polda18 (talk page • contributions) 16:12, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

April photo challenges ready for translation

Hello Polda18,
the April challenges are hopefully ready for translation! Here are the links:

• Analog photography equipment
• Back side

I'm preparing the new watchlist message in HelenOnline's sandbox - as always... Thanks for your help, Anna reg (talk) 07:44, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

All done :) Happy to help :) — Polda18 (talk page • contributions) 14:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Just copied the Czech titles into the new watchlist message, which is waiting for the voting pages to be prepared... --Anna reg (talk) 08:31, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge translation - May

Hello Polda18,
the challenge pages for May are ready for translation:

• Mother Nature Strikes Back
• Panoramas

FRacco created some translation templates for the photo challenge and formulated a Translation Plan - perhaps you could have a look (e.g. the new watchlist message is using one - the translated theme names have to be added to Template:Photo challenge theme/i18n/Mother Nature Strikes Back and Template:Photo challenge theme/i18n/Panoramas).
Best wishes and thanks for your help!
--Anna reg (talk) 19:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Translated, thank you for notice :) — Polda18 (talk page • contributions) 11:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge translation - June

Hello Polda18,
we are really late this month (I didn't have much time), but the challenge pages for June are:

• Collections, Collecting and Collectables
• Eyes

The new templates are therefore {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/Collections, Collecting and Collectables}} and {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/Eyes}}. Oh, and the challenges are both restricted to June and 4 pictures per user - the sentence is added after the {{Photo challenge rules}}-template.
Best wishes and once again thanks for helping!
--Anna reg (talk) 23:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Translated. Thank you for notice :) — Polda18 (talk page • contributions) 09:26, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge translations - July

Hello Polda18,
the pages for July are finally, finally ready for translation:

• Food production and processing
• Unfamiliar Vehicles

The title translations are therefore {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/Food production and processing}} and {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/Unfamiliar Vehicles}}.
I removed the time restriction from last months restriction (time and pictures per user) - please check that I didn't delete anything wrong...
Best wishes and once again thanks for helping!
--Anna reg (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

All challenges for July translated and checked – nothing wrong :) — Polda18 (talk page • contributions) 13:44, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Great! Thanks a lot, Polda18! --Anna reg (talk) 12:46, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge translations - September

Hello Polda18,
I didn't manage to do any notifications for August (I hardly participated in the challenge preparation), but I have some news for September:
The new challenges are

• Fossils (September),
• Fountains and wells (September) and
• 100 years later (September-October)

The title translations can be found under {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/Fossils}}, {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/Fountains and wells}} and {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/100 years later}}.
Oh, and we have a time restriction for September for Fountains and wells - please check the text!
Best wishes, --Anna reg (talk) 00:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

As Mykola Swarnyk asked about the August translations, I realised that it's perhaps a good idea to give you the links for the theme name templates - after all, they will be used in the watchlist notice for September (voting pages): {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/Reptiles and Amphibians}} and {{Photo challenge theme/i18n/Personal Protective Equipment}}.

All the best, --Anna reg (talk) 08:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, all links translated. I need to ask - August challenge Reptiles and Amphibians is displayed title with unknown month and cyrilic (probably ukrainian) spell. Is it possible some malicious mind person could defect the page? I did translate the title, but not the page. Also translated title does not appears on the page, as it is overrided by the cyrilic spell. The same also for the other August challenge. — Polda18 (talk page • contributions) 08:52, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out - I just corrected it. And no, it's not malicious at all - just a mistake while trying to translate the page to Ukrainian. Thanks for your help, Anna reg (talk) 09:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Round 2 of Picture of the Year 2015 is open!

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Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the second round of the 2015 Picture of the Year competition is now open. This year will be the tenth edition of the annual Wikimedia Commons photo competition, which recognizes exceptional contributions by users on Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia users are invited to vote for their favorite images featured on Commons during the last year (2015) to produce a single Picture of the Year.

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Could you tell me how exactly is it a waste of wiki-resources?

I just prefer that you tell me how exactly is it a waste of wiki-resources when categorizing files or nominating problematic file (especially uploader's pattern is to use material he finds on facebook, news report online, government website, etc.) to COM:DR, and then I'll see where I doing something wrong.--Kai3952 (talk) 21:17, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

@Kai3952: I have no idea, I never said so. I said that if someone or group of some people are harrasing you and bullying you, report them. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 09:10, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Someone warned me early on that do not engage in a variety of behaviors that violated social norms in order to avoid being sanctioned by the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC). Because he thinks that I always followed Commons' policies over years, which is actually contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Seriously...Did you believe him?--Kai3952 (talk) 11:21, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't know what he meant to be honest. Commons' policies are pretty much the same as on Wikipedia, both projects utilize the same UCoC, the only difference is in the project scope. Wikipedia is to provide content in form of encyclopedia, whereas Commons provide the multimedia for all the other projects. I don't know what Commons policy would be in contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Anyway, I'm afraid I can't help you in this matter any further other than saying that if you feel being harrased and bullied, report them. I have nothing else to say, honestly. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 11:32, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I originally wanted to email the UCoC, but I saw someone said that User:Walter Grassroot was the one who was permanently globally blocked by the WMF for threatening behaviour (threatening to take legal action against wiki-users). I am worried that I will be globally blocked since both the admin and the bureaucrat have confirmed that my violation of the "NLT" policy is a fact. I never wanted to threaten anyone with legal action, I just explain to User:Reke why the off-wiki personal attacks are against the law. I never thought that someone would force me by spreading rumors in order to achieve his goals. However, the Taiwanese community believed him after he spread the rumor about I have Asperger's syndrome, and thus my actions are also seen as "Competence is required" by the admin, but I have no evidence of it. The admin explained to me that I resist community consensus and severely lack the ability to understand, cognition, and verification (see: the block log). The problem is that they didn't prove that I violated the policies and nor prove that I have Asperger's syndrome, even the Taiwanese community didn't say I should be follow "User:Reke's consensus". In this case, I don't know why my account on zh.wikipedia was blocked was blocked. If it's called bullying or they just hate me, it looks like anyone can't help me (including the UCoC). That's why I can't have the same rights as you like to nominate images needs an OTSR ticket or out of scope images with dubious copyright status. And if it is "User:Reke's consensus", he told me to ignoring all rules.--Kai3952 (talk) 13:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Honestly, I'm no lawyer, so I don't know how I could be useful to you. Me personally, I would file a report to UCoC for harrasment and bullying, and just wait it out how it turns out. If they find you guilty, then I guess there's nothing more to do and personally, I would quit editing at this point. As for Asperger syndrome, I do have it. It is a mild form of autism, patient has slight troubles with understanding. I take medicaments for this. If you want, you can read Wikipedia article about it, and see if you meet some of the illustrated symptoms (by illustrated I don't explicitly mean on a picture, illustrated also means described with words). If you find out you might as well meet the symptoms, then that doesn't automatically mean you have it, but I would suggest you to visit a psychiatrist who would eighter confirm it to you, or tell you otherwise. I have it in my medical record, so I have it confirmed. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 17:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

I had tried it earlier. The doctor didn't prove that I have this symptom, so I don't understand why Taiwanese users chooses to believe the rumor. I know the UCoC will find my guilty, but do you really need to say hurtful words?--Kai3952 (talk) 20:25, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Maybe behaviour? I don't know why Taiwanese users choose to believe rumours, I doubt it's just because of politics between China and Taiwan. UCoC may or may not find you guilty, you won't know for sure if you don't try. As for hurtful words, I wish I didn't have to, but I've gotta tell you truth, and truth can sometimes be hurtful. One thing you may try is to contact UCoC and say you feel the tension between you and Taiwanese users and sysops is mainly due to politics between Taiwan and China, and to be fair, UCoC has to investigate this as politic affection is strictly forbidden on Wikimedia projects, especially on Wikipedia, where users have to write articles and edit them (that includes reverts and deletions) without any political bias. I'm sure similar rules apply to other Wikimedia projects as well. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 05:06, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with politics at all because I'm not interested in them and I'm living in a Taiwanese environment. When I required the doctor for a medical certificate, he refused me, even he dared not assert that I have Asperger's syndrome. I feel the whole situation pretty bizarre. If that rumor is true, why did the doctor reject me, how can this be explained, and therefore I looked for clues from the thread about Commons, it is my last discussion before I got blocked. User:Reke expect that every request should be met without question regardless of Commons's policies. This means that every request he makes is expect me to ignore all policies even to violate the policies. Because he came to my talk page and falsely accused me of having abusing deletion, and later said that, for the Taiwanese community, I am the people who most controversial on Commons. So, he told me that if I didn't have Asperger's syndrome, he believes that all the controversies wouldn't have happened, and then he tried many times to convince me and saying "Policy is not a law, Commons is not a court." But he also emphasized that don't be naive to think that just by categorizing photos and there will be no controversy. You can see my talk page here: Commons, zh.wikipedia. From the clues above, almost all of them match with the reason for being blocked by an admin, but no one admits it. In this case, my inference becomes slandering the admin in their eyes. Before that, I have asked the block admin (User:Ch.Andrew) many times about the reason for being blocked but have been without a response. If I ask other admins, I still can't request for unblock. They either say I'm harassing or they don't believe my inferences. However, I reflect on my own behavior over the years on Commons and I don't see where any policies is violated, even I asked to many users on Commons:Help_desk. This is the first difficulty that I want to request for unblock. As for the second difficulty, I lacked confidence in my law explanation of personal attacks and didn't have the guts to bet on my all wiki-accounts. Because my doctor won't give me a medical certificate to show that I am a healthy person. This means no evidence could be found to support the claim that Asperger's syndrome was a personal attack. If the UCoC believes that I threatening of legal action against users, I will absolutely be global blocked. The third difficulty is that the WMF (including the UCoC) is not in a position to enforce anything completely off-wiki like User:Reke attacked me personally on the PTT site. I kept the evidence at that time, but not direct evidence. Because no one specifically called me "Kai" or "Kai3952".--Kai3952 (talk) 10:44, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I guess you've got your hands tied up then and unless by some miracle the discussion gets brought up to attention on-wiki, there's nothing that can be really done. You could report the abusers on the off-wiki sites for harrasment and abusing behaviour, then if they find them guilty of that, and you bring this up in the triage on-wiki and say these guys have been bullying you off-wiki and got banned there for that behaviour, then UCoC could take that into account. I do not live in China, nor in Taiwan, so I don't know what kind of laws are in effect there. But what I can know for sure is that personal attacks are tolerated almost nowhere.

There's another way you could bring this in attention, but it's fairly risky. That would involve you kind of provoking the bullies and abusers into legal threats against you (by legal threats I mean dangerous threatening, like threats by death and such). Of course make sure it happens on-wiki, or it happens somewhere the UCoC would have some control over it. By nature, those threats are law violation and UCoC will have to take an action against. Make sure it's not immediately obvious what you're actually trying to do. But as I said, this is very risky and could actually result in your own account being blocked globally (and mine as well because it could be somehow linked back to me through this discussion).

Decide which way you want to go. If you know for sure they're absolutely willing to threat you with death and such, try to push a little gently, make them go overboard and silently provoke them without anyone noticing. If you now for sure they're going to easily get provoked. But me personally, I would go the other approach, and report them on various sites they've been harrasing and bullying you, and collect evidences of successful effort to later confront them in front of UCoC.

Other than that, I really do not have any piece of advice I could give to you. If you feel more adventurous, you can go with the more risky route, but I would actually advice against that and instead choose safer route. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 11:07, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

If my inference is correct, the most likely cause is that my following with the policies of Commons will hurt their benefits. As you know, no matter what I do, they always have reasons to accuse me, but they never say what policy I violate. When I'm categorizing photos, they accuse me of causing their trouble. When I nominate a photo that is not permission from the copyright holder, they accuse me of abusing deletion. At first, I thought that I just try to apologize for my mistakes that I've done to them and they'll forgive me, but later I found that it doesn't actually work. This matter completely subverts what we think we know about the right thing. As you said, no one can help me unless there is a miracle. Also, User:Reke is acting as a staff member in the Wikimedia Taiwan, which means that his words represented the WMF, so those who displeased with me believed him. It can be seen from this that he has a lot of people behind him supporting him, so there is massive pressure for me. However, I now see a problem in front of my eyes: For Taiwanese users who are active on off-wiki sites, they have been displeased with my actions to categorize photos. If I did what each of them said, I think I might go insane. But, if I don't do it, they'll say that I'm not cooperating with them. Suddenly, I feel like I've become their slave. I don't understand why they keep complaining about me because they can do it themselves. One of the upsides of a freely-editable encyclopedia is that everyone can to edit (to focus on) what they are interested in. Ironically, Reke said I should serve them (Taiwanese users) instead of the policy. I am not a staff member in the Wikimedia Taiwan and also not to get the salary from them, so I don't understand what obligation I have to listen to them. If the policies of Commons is made by them, I am very willing to listen to them. My conclusion is that, either choose to listen to them, or choose to be global blocked by the UCoC, but the end result is the same - Blocked for policy violation. BTW, "waste of wiki-resources" is what User:Reke told me.--Kai3952 (talk) 15:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, one thing to say is that strict sticking to policies can be just as hurtful to the project as violating them. Common sense always helps to find a good way to battle with policy violation. Because policies are not always mandatory, there are some mandatory policies that should be followed and it is generally not a good idea to violate them, like behaviour policies, but other policies are more of a recommendation and do not explicitly need to be followed, it only kind of says that it is recommended doing it that way and it's actually not a big deal doing it differently, like policies with the file description - other than license, which is mandatory, the rest of that isn't actually much strictly enforced. The format may be somewhat explicitly stated that you have to use pre-existing templates, but there's not a single requirement for multilanguage descriptions to be honest. Multilanguage description is only recommended, and if you do use one, there's a recommendation of a MLD template for it ({{Mld}}) that can display whatever language you decide to include in the description, and there's a dropdown menu that you can use to select your language (your site language is usually pre-selected if available), but you don't have to stick with it, you can use older multilanguage templates to describe a file with multiple languages, it's just the {{Mld}} template is recommended to use. So yeah, you can't obviously enforce recommendations, but you can and should enforce official mandatory policies. Don't be so strict on it however, because if you strictly enforce every single official policy (they're usually kind of vague, and that's on purpose to actually allow certain diversity in the community), you can hurt the project as much as violating them. The only policy that should be strictly followed is the UCoC policy, which is kind of the basis of a functioning project. Enforcing that is actually top priority. Hope I helped you a bit to understand the way policies work on wiki sites. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 15:49, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Please take a look at File:Memorybank2019-還有圓環噴水池的台東火車站.jpg. This photo is a copyright violation for the following reason: It has been posted on the 文化部國家文化記憶庫 website, making it copyrighted. And also, it does not have a permission from the copyright holder. Evidence: "Copyright © 2019 文化部國家文化記憶庫 版權所有." For those who can read Chinese, this is an obvious copyright notice, which it means that the copyright belongs to the 文化部國家文化記憶庫 website. If User:Allenwang6212a have a permission from the copyright holder to share the photo here, but he didn't. Could you please tell me why this is not a policy violation?--Kai3952 (talk) 18:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

The same case happened to the other 49 photos. Look at Category:Winner of 2019 Taiwan memorybank.--Kai3952 (talk) 18:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, it looks like an old photo, and the copyright notice may be actually for the entire site rather than the individual photos. Copyright actually belongs to the photographer (if the photo wasn't sold to the company right away). This photo was most likely taken by Chen Xiufen (noted as creator on the page, and I've run it through Google Translate in order to read what it says). It depends on whether the photographer is still alive or when the photographer died if not. Based on the informations provided by the page (it lacks information on when it was created, but I guess it's no younger than 20 Feb 2020 when the photo was uploaded to Commons, which makes it 2+ years old publication from the site, we'll pretend it was uploaded the same year the page was created), if the memory author's dad was 92 year old in 2020, and the photograph was taken in his 30s, the photograph must have been 62 years old at the moment, which makes it 64 years old now. 60 years ago, it was 1962, subtract another 4 years and you get to 1958. According to COM:TAIWAN#Old photographs, and based on the informations found on the page, this corresponds to the two middle cases in the table. If the copyright was registered, it would be in Public Domain, and the license template then should be replaced with {{PD-ROC-oldphoto}} (stated as any date between 1 Jan 1945 to 9 July 1974 applies). If the copyright was unregistered, then the latter would apply, if the photo was first published before 9 July 1964, and again from 1 Jan 1945, and it would correspond to the same license template, so again PD. But we don't know when it was first published. TinEye (browser extension that searches the internet for similar images and occurences of the same image anywhere else) didn't find anything, literally 0 matches, so it seems like the photo was uploaded for the first time on that website. Now it depends on whether the copyright was registered at the date of creation, that would make it PD, or the photo was unregistered until now when it was actually claimed by the website and therefore they hold the rights for the photo and may not be actually uploaded. Eighter way, the CC BY-SA license is incorrectly assumed here and in better case should be replaced with appropriate PD template or in worse case the file should be deleted as copyright violation. But I don't know for sure and you'd be wiser to actually ask the site owners if they have details on when the photo was first published and wether the photo was copyrighted at the date of creation (meaning registered) or the photo was first uploaded to the site and only attributed to the original photographer and claimed copyright for it. Then you'd know for sure. The copyright notice on the sites do not automatically mean the photo itself is copyrighted, in this case it's called a copyfraud and that basically means a false copyright claim that actually doesn't exist. The site itself however IS copyrighted and you should not reproduce the contents of the site publicly without an explicit written permission by the site authors (the only exception would be a public internet archive that automatically crawls the site and caches an archive to their archive deposit). Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 19:39, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kai3952: Oh, right, I found it. Turns out the photos are indeed under CC BY-SA, as per this page: https://memorybank.culture.tw/event/zh-tw/event_004. I didn't know what that was, it's a competition and these photos were entries for the competition. All it takes is just read the deletion nomination archives, it's fairly easily explained there. Again, translated the page and this is what it says:

All participating works should be marked with the name authorized by CC-Share Alike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) and later versions will be released.

The automatic translation is a little wonky, but you get the idea. The point is that the copyright notice in the page footer applies to everything else (the graphics of the page, the stylesheets and other content that does nothing with the photos sent into the competition). You can read that same copyright notice even on the contest rules page. A contest held by National Cultural Memory Bank of the Ministry of Culture Thaiwan. So yeah, the photos can be kept, their license is compatible with Commons. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 13:16, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

The problem is that no one knows for sure where that copyright notice posted. Because the uploader did not provide the evidence that proves their photos meet CC BY-SA. In this case I got blocked by them, does that mean I did something wrong? Could you please tell me what you think, Polda18?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:32, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, I guess you can always investigate a little bit and provide a link to a page that confirms the license. I've already investigated it (and other people did before me), so you can use the link I provided higher up to kind of confirm that the license is indeed valid. Just edit the file description page and include the link to the license section. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 16:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I know, but they don't listen, so I can't do that. Moreover, what they care about is if I can "cooperate" with them, and not copyright issue. Please take a look at the CIR policy, and it says:

The ability to communicate with other editors and abide by consensus.

Therefore, there is a gap in perception between how Taiwanese people and you regard "Wikimedia.Commons". Also, Taiwanese admin (User:Ch.Andrew) blocked me without warning. Other than legal threats, he didn't explain what happened that made him have to block me, so I have no idea what he means by those words: "resist community consensus and severely lack the ability to understand, cognition, and verification". It's because of that experience, I can't do some things like you can let go and do. I have seen many Taiwanese people accusing me of "many things" and hating me to the core (which is happened on off-wiki sites). This means that I did a lot of things wrong, not only copyright issue. When they are pick on almost everything about me, honestly I would love to get things done, but I can't that. Because if I do what they say (or, say, if I do what is bad in my situation), once the policy is violated, then I will be blocked. In this case I feel that it seems like forcing me to leave Commons or all Wikimedia sites. For example, categorizing photos is something I do every day, but they expect me not to do it. However, some Taiwanese users can't properly contribute to Commons like normal users. They either don't add categories, or they randomly add categories ignoring the over-categorization issue. Since Commons does not have a Taiwanese admin to represent them, I didn't get along well with them. Interestingly, when I said that, they scolded me on off-wiki sites for twisting their words. It's not that I don't cooperate with them, it's that they don't accept me. That's why no matter what I do, the end result is the same - Blocked for policy violation. Whether or not the legal threat is true, they always have a reason to exclude me from zh.wikipedia. Please tell me, Polda18. How can I save myself?--Kai3952 (talk) 22:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

At this point, I don't know. I guess somewhere between there was an error on both sides and once untreated, it quickly becomes too wild to control. I'm out of ideas, sorry. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 05:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

That would explain why I can accept what you say, but can't really do, such as provide a link to a page that confirms the license. And by the way, did you know that the CIR policy is not mandatory (including zh.wikipedia)?--Kai3952 (talk) 08:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

No I didn't. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 08:49, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Anyway, I must have done something wrong to cause this to happen. Because I contributed far more edits than most Taiwanese users to files on Commons; however, the photo nominated for deletion is only one percent or less of my edits. My main work/task has been primarily devoted to categorizing all photos taken in Taiwan. I can't do anything that might go against their consensus until a dispute about it is resolved. If they do something against the policy (for example, upload photos without permission, or violate FoP-Taiwan), I won't meddle with them. For now, I am just hoping you guys can understand my current situation. Thanks.--Kai3952 (talk) 17:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Please don't erase parts of discussion, I've reverted the edits back. Erasing parts of discussion breaks the discussion flow. Don't worry, I won't tell them and you won't get in trouble for just asking. If you are worried about your security, we can use emails, they're private. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 05:48, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Please talk a look at this diff. The whole edit history of the page is easily accessible, so anyone can easily see who actually did any given edit. Someone else probably would have said you are lying to my face. If not, why do you spread about I reporting the photo so it becomes more wide spread which causes it to get me in trouble?--Kai3952 (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Don't forget you said that policies are not always mandatory. Since you have indicated that we shouldn't follow the Commons's copyright policy, why are people still reporting copyrighted photos every day?--Kai3952 (talk) 18:40, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

I do not spread rumours about you reporting a photo, you told me to take a look at it and I investigated further into it. And to Commons' policies. It is true that not all policies are mandatory, but actually copyright policies are based on laws, which are mandatory, so you get the picture. I never said that you shouldn't follow Commons' copyright policy. You're twisting my words. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 20:02, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I have written on it, but where exactly did I mention that you've reported the photo? You've filed it for deletion request, that's a fact, and it was denied, rightfully, that it is indeed under CC BY-SA license. What I did is I copied portion of our discussion over there. Plus, if you look at the very next revision, I apologise as I've then read the deletion request archives and verified the license status. Please don't twist my words again, by doing that you're not going to make a good friend in me. I understand that English is not your primary language (mine neighter, after all), and you may have difficulties with writing in English. For that reason, I am willing to brush this off, but next time please be cautious about what you write and double check it. You can also use Google Translate to translate small phrases you've got troubles with, I genuinely think it could help you. I'd suggest you to drop the matter for a while, I guess it would be best for both of us. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 20:12, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Autopatroller

Hi, I gave you the Autopatroller right. Thanks for your contributions. Yann (talk) 14:57, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate that. ☺ Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 15:43, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thank you very much for your answer! I optimized the file - just removed bitmaps))))))And for the fonts - HUGE THANK YOU! Пётр Тарасьев (talk) 16:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar. I appreciate that. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 05:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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